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That creates a lot of work for the next administration.

ncr100 9mo ago
This is fairly routine -- for Democratic executive administrations to unfuck financial / other poor performance / bad health promulgated by prior Republican ones: Republicans since Reagan have prioritized tax cuts as an end in themselves, treating deficit concerns as secondary Democrats have generally accepted the post-1990s norm of PAYGO (pay-as-you-go) budgeting more consistently Trump has been remarkable effective and impactful, for a US President. His term makes me think maybe we DON'T want Presidents, as they're too powerful and it's too risky a structural design.
- jacquesm 9mo ago
  We're well beyond what a democratic administration following the Trump one can undo, there is a large amount of permanent damage.
  - tstrimple 9mo ago
    Democratic measures against Republicans is always one step forward for every two steps back. It’s not enough and has never been enough because liberals don’t fight a fraction as hard to help people as conservatives do to fuck people over. Every single democratic administration wastes months to years trying some sort of reconciliation path with people who actively hate them and wonder why politics as usual isn’t working.
    - anigbrowl 9mo ago
      I agree, but believe jacquesm is pointing to a larger problem: even with diligent and committed efforts by a different administration or a series of them, the rest of the world is not going to trust the US any more for a very long time. Partly thanks to social media, it's obvious that the political realignment we're seeing is not just the work of a few political strategists and manipulators, but that about a third of the US is consumed by a revanchist mindset with whom accommodation is impossible.
      - jacquesm 9mo ago
        Indeed. Even Canadians, who - as a rule, and of course only in my experience - are fairly mild mannered are now outright aghast at the way their Southern neighbor is behaving. This is something I never expected to see and here we are, and that little bit of damage alone is going to last for a decade or more if it doesn't get much worse compared to where it is today. The damage we're talking about will last for generations.
    - stopbulying 9mo ago
      > "don’t fight a fraction as hard to help people as conservatives do to [f] people over" I attribute this more to the relative difficulty to destroy compared with the effort required to create. It's easier to burn bridges than build them. It's easier to forfeit external relations saboteurially than to be a decent f person and listen. They just forfeited 66 very big deals. When they run away like that, they forfeit.
- JohnFen 9mo ago
  > His term makes me think maybe we DON'T want Presidents, as they're too powerful and it's too risky a structural design. Or we could go back to actually following Constitutional intent. In that, the executive branch isn't the most powerful at all. Congress is.
  - ncr100 9mo ago
    I wonder if that idea would support enhancing the Congress with more members + more true-representational (not Gerrymandered) membership, and eliminating the Senate? I have Zero fundamental understanding of governing, or best-practices for representational government, nor for my own / USA's system. And I wonder wtf should I actually know, in order to fore-arm myself for this upcoming period where the USA must adapt to the perils of this new age.
burnt-resistor 9mo ago
You're recklessly optimistic assuming damage is temporary, reversible, and that there will be a different kind of administration subsequently when the current occupant has already voiced that _their next inauguration_ will be held in the forthcoming demolished east wing Epstein-Trump memorial ballroom.
bl4kers 9mo ago
He will likely run again. Already signalled that
- onemoresoop 9mo ago
  In my opinion he doesn't stand a chance a 3rd time around. Also he's too old for that, he'd be 83 yo and by the end of his 3rd term would be 87.
  - dylan604 9mo ago
    If he has a third term, it's likely the end of it won't be based on some preset number of years but his eventual dirt nap.
  - krapp 9mo ago
    ICE is going to have a hell of a time feeding the souls of a thousand foreigners to the golden throne every day to keep him alive. Maybe that's what Venezuela's for.
  - bl4kers 9mo ago
    His age or mental capacity never seemed to be a dealbreaker for his supporters previously. I'm not sure how or why that would change. Obviously number go up but if they still trust him it doesn't really matter. They will handwave and talk about advances in medicine & health

This is fairly routine -- for Democratic executive administrations to unfuck financial / other poor performance / bad health promulgated by prior Republican ones: Republicans since Reagan have prioritized tax cuts as an end in themselves, treating deficit concerns as secondary Democrats have generally accepted the post-1990s norm of PAYGO (pay-as-you-go) budgeting more consistently Trump has been remarkable effective and impactful, for a US President. His term makes me think maybe we DON'T want Presidents, as they're too powerful and it's too risky a structural design.

jacquesm 9mo ago
We're well beyond what a democratic administration following the Trump one can undo, there is a large amount of permanent damage.
- tstrimple 9mo ago
  Democratic measures against Republicans is always one step forward for every two steps back. It’s not enough and has never been enough because liberals don’t fight a fraction as hard to help people as conservatives do to fuck people over. Every single democratic administration wastes months to years trying some sort of reconciliation path with people who actively hate them and wonder why politics as usual isn’t working.
  - anigbrowl 9mo ago
    I agree, but believe jacquesm is pointing to a larger problem: even with diligent and committed efforts by a different administration or a series of them, the rest of the world is not going to trust the US any more for a very long time. Partly thanks to social media, it's obvious that the political realignment we're seeing is not just the work of a few political strategists and manipulators, but that about a third of the US is consumed by a revanchist mindset with whom accommodation is impossible.
    - jacquesm 9mo ago
      Indeed. Even Canadians, who - as a rule, and of course only in my experience - are fairly mild mannered are now outright aghast at the way their Southern neighbor is behaving. This is something I never expected to see and here we are, and that little bit of damage alone is going to last for a decade or more if it doesn't get much worse compared to where it is today. The damage we're talking about will last for generations.
  - stopbulying 9mo ago
    > "don’t fight a fraction as hard to help people as conservatives do to [f] people over" I attribute this more to the relative difficulty to destroy compared with the effort required to create. It's easier to burn bridges than build them. It's easier to forfeit external relations saboteurially than to be a decent f person and listen. They just forfeited 66 very big deals. When they run away like that, they forfeit.
JohnFen 9mo ago
> His term makes me think maybe we DON'T want Presidents, as they're too powerful and it's too risky a structural design. Or we could go back to actually following Constitutional intent. In that, the executive branch isn't the most powerful at all. Congress is.
- ncr100 9mo ago
  I wonder if that idea would support enhancing the Congress with more members + more true-representational (not Gerrymandered) membership, and eliminating the Senate? I have Zero fundamental understanding of governing, or best-practices for representational government, nor for my own / USA's system. And I wonder wtf should I actually know, in order to fore-arm myself for this upcoming period where the USA must adapt to the perils of this new age.

burnt-resistor 9mo ago

You're recklessly optimistic assuming damage is temporary, reversible, and that there will be a different kind of administration subsequently when the current occupant has already voiced that _their next inauguration_ will be held in the forthcoming demolished east wing Epstein-Trump memorial ballroom.

bl4kers 9mo ago

He will likely run again. Already signalled that

onemoresoop 9mo ago
In my opinion he doesn't stand a chance a 3rd time around. Also he's too old for that, he'd be 83 yo and by the end of his 3rd term would be 87.
- dylan604 9mo ago
  If he has a third term, it's likely the end of it won't be based on some preset number of years but his eventual dirt nap.
- krapp 9mo ago
  ICE is going to have a hell of a time feeding the souls of a thousand foreigners to the golden throne every day to keep him alive. Maybe that's what Venezuela's for.
- bl4kers 9mo ago
  His age or mental capacity never seemed to be a dealbreaker for his supporters previously. I'm not sure how or why that would change. Obviously number go up but if they still trust him it doesn't really matter. They will handwave and talk about advances in medicine & health