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I am not a weightlifter, I am an amateur powerlifter, and I do pretty intense resistance training for my age (54yo) and my weight (112kg) and I eat about 800g t
by thesz 10mo ago
I am not a weightlifter, I am an amateur powerlifter, and I do pretty intense resistance training for my age (54yo) and my weight (112kg) and I eat about 800g to 1kg a day of meat - duck, pork or beef. Even if I eat 1kg Wagyu beef, it would give me about 3000 calories, slightly less than 3500 calories I need to keep my muscle mass. I would happily eat even more meat but circumstances prevents me to do so.
I used to drink protein shakes, but now I am actively against these. Artificial sweeteners provoke insulin release [1] [2] that leads to type-II diabetes.
[1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2887503/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2887503/
[2] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1056872725000078 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S10568...
- locallost 10mo agoYou can get protein powder without flavoring. I drink that either pure or with a little bit of flavored protein mixed in (something like 3:1) because the flavored stuff is so sweet I can't drink it. Some brands I could literally do 3 parts flavorless, 1 part flavored and it would still taste too sweet.
- thesz 10mo agoWhy you get protein powder of unknown origin instead of the meat?
- NewJazz 10mo agoThe origin is not unknown.
- littlestymaar 10mo agoWhey has the same origin as beef meat you know?
- loeg 10mo agoYeah, they both come from Costco.
- littlestymaar 10mo agoAnd from cow, ultimately.
- locallost 10mo agoIt's convenient. I have no idea where the meat came from either.
- b00ty4breakfast 10mo agoyou can get protein powder that doesn't contain artificial sweeteners. You can get protein powder that doesn't contain any sweetener. You can even buy pure protein powder without any additives at all.
- thesz 10mo agoHumans are top predators. We eat more meat of various kind than any other predators, including other predators like bears. Lions can't eat ducks or chickens. We can and do. Why should I, as a top predator, drink a protein powder instead eating a meat of a big mammal?
- NewJazz 10mo agoYou should acknowledge when you shift the goal posts.
- thesz 10mo ago[flagged]
- serf 10mo agoOK. Well, the way you wrote this sentence : > I used to drink protein shakes, but now I am actively against these. Artificial sweeteners provoke insulin release [1] [2] that leads to type-II diabetes. makes it read , structurally, like the artificial sweetener is the reasoning behind why you're against protein shakes. Call it what you want , but to an outsider reading in it looks like you're later moving the goal posts from 'artificial sweetener is bad' to 'unnatural diets are bad' later in the dialogue. What most people would have done , if their opinion was that unnatural diets were bad, would be to say that rather than a specific subset of that unnatural diet (artificial sweetener). With that explained as such can you see why some might think of it as goal-post moving ? If not, why?
- thesz 10mo ago
- hombre_fatal 10mo agoYour best evidence is a rat study and a narrative review? Kinda makes zero cal sweeteners look good.
- thesz 10mo agoIt is hard to experiment on humans. Here is an experiment on monkeys: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39978336/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39978336/ At least aspartame increases insulin secretion in them.