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UBI will turn Earth into the Earth of the Expanse. I truly believe it would be absolutely ruinous on man. Our psychology is just not built for that.
by ecshafer 10mo ago
UBI will turn Earth into the Earth of the Expanse. I truly believe it would be absolutely ruinous on man. Our psychology is just not built for that.
- Rumple22Stilk 10mo agoThe earth of the expanse is 1000 times better than any time in history.
- ironman1478 10mo agoThe life of people on earth doesn't seem better than people now. For connected people it seems great, but for the average joe it seemed awful.
- Rumple22Stilk 9mo agoYes it does. You don't have an accurate understanding of the lives of people on earth now, which is largely constant pain and suffering.
- ecshafer 10mo agoDid you read the expanse? The earth of the expanse is full of crime and destitution. People apply in the tens of thousands for every lottery slot of school or jobs. People just wallow in nothingness. The people fleet earth for mars and the belt just to have a basic sense of purpose. If we are to just have UBI. Have basic sustenance for no effort, while we have unlimited entertainment and porn at our finger tips. It would be a disaster. I would literally we rather have make work programs.
- Rumple22Stilk 9mo agoYes. I read the expanse. The problem is you don't understand how terrible life on earth is currently for the majority of people, you are coddled.
- acdha 10mo agoThat’s unproven, but suppose it’s true: what’s your alternative? If we are in fact facing widespread unemployment, what’s going to be better than UBI at avoiding societal collapse? Billionaires paying private armies to contain poor people is a straight-up sci-fi dystopia but even that depends on enough people having money to buy things from their companies.
- ecshafer 10mo agoIf we truly hit the point where we have more people than jobs. That we hit AI improving at miraculous paces that we cant even reskill people. I think it would be better to essentially have make work programs. Have basic qualification programs where you are guaranteed a job. People need a purpose. Throw every person capable of getting an engineering or science degree into labs. Massively expand teaching, nurseing and medicine so there is extremely personal care just by the sheer numbers.
- monknomo 10mo agoretraining programs are famously both failures and mostly absent for this sort of disruption. displaced factory workers mostly drift into janitorial or cab driving sorts of work. Why would it be different for other sorts of workers?
- hackable_sand 10mo agoThis is so fucking dumb. I hate when software engineers try to solve problems. You are good at one thing, do that. The rest of us will struggle without your help because that's what we been doing. We are literally struggling to fulfill our purposes because we have jobs.
- bgwalter 10mo agoDDT has been banned, cigarettes are all but banned, leaded fuel has been banned. Nuclear energy has been banned in Germany. The industry wanted all of that and did not get its way after some time. You can ban "AI", make companies respect copyright. You can do all sorts of things. Since "AI" can only plagiarize, countries that do the above will have an edge (I'm not talking about military applications that can still be allowed or should be regulated like in treaties for nuclear weapons).
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- TeMPOraL 10mo agoMaybe. Or maybe it'll turn it into something closer to Earth from Star Trek.
- auggierose 10mo agoMaybe yours isn't.
- JTbane 10mo agoI disagree, the only real issue with UBI is the amount of inflation it will cause. Germany has something nearly approaching UBI and they are doing fine.