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The US FDA requires that schools not serve whole milk or any products containing normal and natural saturated fats, and instead serve “low fat” versions which l
by brians 9mo ago
The US FDA requires that schools not serve whole milk or any products containing normal and natural saturated fats, and instead serve “low fat” versions which literally remove the fats and replace them with sugar.
You say nobody is doing this, but all the subsidized meals for my kids do this.
- ceejayoz 9mo agoSkim/lowfat milk just... takes the cream out. The same rule changes tightened the rules on added sugar.
- jibe 9mo agoTaking the cream out is (by some diet theories) bad. The fat in whole milk slows down the absorption of lactose, leading to a slower rise in blood glucose compared to skim milk. Whole milk is more satiating as well, because of the fat. If you are trying to have some reasonable balance of fat, protein, and carbs in your diet, pushing kids from whole to skim milk is going to move the diet towards consuming more sugar/carbs, even if you have a seperate rule trying to tighten sugar consumption.
- ceejayoz 9mo agoNone of that makes "remove the fats and replace them with sugar" in the post upthread accurate.
- jibe 9mo agoWhen you take a high satiety, high fat item, and replace it with a non-fat, low satiety item, you are in effect replacing fat with sugar, because you will eat/drink more of it to get same number of calories, and same amount of fullness.
- astura 9mo agoMilk is not high satiety, come on now.
- jibe 9mo agoDrink a glass of whole milk, then drink a cup of skim milk and tell me there is no difference. Try the same with full fat yogurt and non-fat yogurt. Big difference in satiety, but more importantly blood sugar response. Roughly the same amount of fat in a glass of whole milk as 1/4 pound burger.
- 125123wqw1212 9mo agoI don't think anyone ( at least around me ) is drinking milk based drink twice as much just because they feel like they get less energy per drink from skimmed milk. You are making an argument that people do so, do you have any evidence for this ?
- llm_nerd 9mo ago>Big difference in satiety, but more importantly blood sugar response. There is a negligible difference in glycemic index / glycemic load between the variations of M.F. milk products. Some analysis has skim milk as having a lower GI. Unflavoured Milk is not relevant to the GI conversation.
- astura 9mo ago>Drink a glass of whole milk, then drink a cup of skim milk and tell me there is no difference Ok, there's no different. Beyond that, Minor differents in glycemic load are irrelevant if you're consuming milk with a meal, like the kids in school are doing.
- cestith 9mo agoSkim milk is not "low fat". It is fat free. In the US milk labeled as low fat is 1% or 2% milk fat (usually 2%). Whole milk is around 4%. Skim milk rounds to 0%. 2% milk is a pretty good balance.
- ceejayoz 9mo ago> Skim milk is not "low fat" Read the slash as “or”, not “also known as”.
- worik 9mo agoIn my country the lowest fat milk has added lactose. It did twenty years ago, when I noticed, I have not bought it since
- Qem 9mo agoIs it added deliberately or just concentrated as a side-effect? Say fat comprised, let me guess, 5% of whole milk volume. If you take away this 5% v/v component, now everything else in one liter of skim milk is 5% concentrated by comparison, unless they add water.
- worik 9mo agoListed as an ingredient
- Dylan16807 9mo agoFor the milk you don't add sugar directly, but you end up adding more carbs to the rest of the meal when you take out nothing but fat from the milk.
- ceejayoz 9mo agoWhole milk is 4% milkfat, to skim's 0%. We're not talking much here.
- Dylan16807 9mo agoThe fat is about half the calories. Removing all the fat reduces the calories in milk, but now it's 60% sugar calories instead of 33%. It's much.
- ceejayoz 9mo agoThat's like saying a dollar bill is worth more if I give the rest of my money away.
- Dylan16807 9mo agoIt's saying it's you give all your change away and then replace it with new money then you increase your bill value. The meal does not get smaller. The meal has a calorie target, and the milkfat gets replaced with new food. And almost never will that new food be a chunk of lard, so it will increase the carb ratio.
- llm_nerd 9mo ago>which literally remove the fats and replace them with sugar. This is not accurate. No they didn't "replace" the fats with sugar. There is a chocolate milk option, just as there was before, but all options need to be 1% or low M.F., which nutrition and medical science overwhelmingly supports. Is chocolate milk not ideal? Of course. We all know that. They shouldn't serve it either.