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Well obviously you could just pirate it instead right? Like piracy or not, spending more money or listening to less music are not the only options. Hell you cou

Well obviously you could just pirate it instead right? Like piracy or not, spending more money or listening to less music are not the only options. Hell you could not pirate it and just listen on youtube - that's another option. The real cost to self-hosted is time and complexity. But there are all sorts of alternatives to simply not using Spotify anymore - not just self hosting.

aeturnum 10mo ago
Sure - but as you can see here the focus on "ditching spotify" is often ethical. You can absolutely use services that have an artist pay-rate of $0 per stream, but I don't think people typically advocate for that - and indeed this author does not seem to either (otherwise they would have no collection size issues).
- Freak_NL 10mo ago
  The piracy route can even be ethical. Compare: * Have a Spotify subscription, listen to all 10 albums of some artist. * Pirate everything, but buy a T-shirt from that artist. * Buy one album digitally (their latest), and pirate the rest. What is the artist earning from your contributions in these three cases?
  - troupo 10mo ago
    They will likely get the most money from the T-shirt because the percentage that the artist gets is much higher than any percentage they get from the distributors they distribute through (in case of both Spotify and digital albums they are likely to be the same distributor: Warner Music, Sony, Universal or some such)
    - amatecha 10mo ago
      Yeah or even better I buy the album on Bandcamp, then they get either 85% of the price, or 100% on "Bandcamp Friday".
      - nsteel 10mo ago
        I think Bandcamp could do with a simple way to just pay artists money. There is that "name your price" thing but it's a bodge.
- nonethewiser 10mo ago
  I expect many people think: "fuck spotify" and "i dont think piracy is bad" at the same time. I don't think leaving spotify on an ethical basis implies any specific opinion on piracy.

aeturnum 10mo ago

Sure - but as you can see here the focus on "ditching spotify" is often ethical. You can absolutely use services that have an artist pay-rate of $0 per stream, but I don't think people typically advocate for that - and indeed this author does not seem to either (otherwise they would have no collection size issues).

Freak_NL 10mo ago
The piracy route can even be ethical. Compare: * Have a Spotify subscription, listen to all 10 albums of some artist. * Pirate everything, but buy a T-shirt from that artist. * Buy one album digitally (their latest), and pirate the rest. What is the artist earning from your contributions in these three cases?
- troupo 10mo ago
  They will likely get the most money from the T-shirt because the percentage that the artist gets is much higher than any percentage they get from the distributors they distribute through (in case of both Spotify and digital albums they are likely to be the same distributor: Warner Music, Sony, Universal or some such)
  - amatecha 10mo ago
    Yeah or even better I buy the album on Bandcamp, then they get either 85% of the price, or 100% on "Bandcamp Friday".
    - nsteel 10mo ago
      I think Bandcamp could do with a simple way to just pay artists money. There is that "name your price" thing but it's a bodge.
nonethewiser 10mo ago
I expect many people think: "fuck spotify" and "i dont think piracy is bad" at the same time. I don't think leaving spotify on an ethical basis implies any specific opinion on piracy.