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Red Bull Stratos Skydive Rescheduled for today
- thesis 14y agoCan someone explain why they say it will take 2 hours for him to reach his altitude? Right now he's 12.5 miles up after 35:26 minutes. Will he slow down as his altitude increases? I keep hearing them talk about dropping ballast -- is there a danger in ascending too fast?
- kloncks 14y ago12.5 miles is 66k feet. He's at 44k. EDIT: But yes, he will also slow down as he goes up. The balloon will also change shape and expand greatly in size.
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- thesis 14y agoOk, I didn't realize the number to the right of the clock was meters and not miles. I guess the decimal instead of the comma threw me off.
- pauschi 14y agohe will slow down as he gets higher
- iM8t 14y agoYes, and he will stop going up complately (vertically) after the density of helium will be equal to the density of air.
- Dunnorandom 14y agoYes, he will slow down the higher he gets. What's driving him up is the difference in density between the Helium inside his balloon and the air outside. The atmosphere becomes less dense with increasing altitude, so the density difference, and thus the buoyancy decreases as well. Not sure about ascending too fast, I'd imagine at high speeds there's a risk of damaging the balloon due to wind.
- TomGullen 14y agoHere's the live video feed: http://www.youtube.com/redbull http://www.youtube.com/redbull
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- raganwald 14y agoJoseph Kittenger's Project Excelsior jump: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Excelsior https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Excelsior
- pauschi 14y agowow. is he that white haired guy in base station? seems he was also that guy who has set the previous freefall record in the 60s.
- raganwald 14y agoYes, Kittinger is the man walking Felix through the procedures. This is the Dynamic Duo of high altitude jumping. I felt a shiver listening to them, this is a day I think I will tell my children about. p.s. Kittinger is 84!
- toomuchtodo 14y agoLooks like the freefall duration record wasn't beaten :(
- raganwald 14y agoI'm personally wondering of Felix did that deliberately to leave Joe in the record books.
- colkassad 14y agoHe was also complaining just before that that his visor was fogged over. Perhaps he deployed because of that.
- e28eta 14y agoMy guess is that because he went so much faster initially, he covered a further distance faster. I haven't done the math, and he definitely deployed early, but it still seems plausible to me
- sbarre 14y ago11AM EST is the current estimated launch time.. Anyone know how long the ascent is going to last before he actually jumps?
- dhughes 14y agoHe has a lot of external stuff on his suit I'm worried at Mach 1 it will be torn off.
- SoftwareMaven 14y agoThat's Mach 1 in nearly no atmosphere. Nothing there to tear stuff off.
- noinput 14y agoThat's a really fascinating reality!
- dhughes 14y agoI thought even at that altitude there would still be a significant amount of atmosphere but apparently not. Even 39km there's still a lot of atmosphere to go but I guess it's pretty thin. When interviewed Kittinger said something "To all those who said Baumgartner suit would tear apart I salute you with a middle finger!" I laughed but thought it was unnecessary harsh since at some point he may enter thicker atmospheric region going 1,340km/h. The design of aircraft are angled to near points and aircraft skin of supersonic craft are made of exotic materials to withstand thousands of degrees Celsius. I figured Mach 1 in a bulky suit thin atmosphere or not at some point something may tear, give way or heat up suddenly.
- neurotech1 14y agoNot as likely as it sounds. There has been at least one case of a SR-71 pilot ejecting at speed/altitude and making a "safe" ejection, and without everything being torn off. It all depends on the dynamic pressure which is a combination of speed and air density.
- uptown 14y agoLIVE NOW! http://www.redbullstratos.com/live/ http://www.redbullstratos.com/live/
- kloncks 14y agoDelayed by 20s in case a tragic accident occurs.
- ubershmekel 14y agoThe original scheduled launch on the morning of 9 October 2012 was delayed and cancelled because of a 25-mile-per-hour (40 km/h) gust of wind at the launch site. Technicians at the launch site also found that one of the capsule's communications radio was faulty. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Bull_Stratos http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Bull_Stratos
- ccarpenterg 14y agoFreefall live on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/redbull?v=MrIxH6DToXQ http://www.youtube.com/user/redbull?v=MrIxH6DToXQ
- chasing 14y agoAll in the name of selling sugary sodas. Noble.
- manaskarekar 14y agoNo. The sugary soda is what pays for this inspiring and informative break from the shit on the learning channel.
- chasing 14y agoIt's interesting, for sure. But the goal is to get you to drink more Red Bull. It's a very unique ad, but still an ad. For a sugary beverage people should probably actually be drinking less of, not more.
- paulgb 14y agoThey're going to be spending money to sell their sugary beverage one way or another, but it's cool they're doing it in a way that will advance the state of science rather than just polluting the world with more billboard ads.
- anonymouz 14y agoBut, will it advance the state of science? Maybe if he actually goes to Mach 1 that could prove interesting but otherwise the "science" part of that whole thing makes me cringe. For example they put the "edge of space" at 36km (it's actually usually considered to be at ~100km), there is no explanation for such gross errors except that they want to market the crap out of this.
- caw 14y agoWhile you care it's not the edge of space, and I care, do your mother care? Does she know the difference between the two, or is 128,000 feet just really high, and might as well be outer space. If anyone does figure it out, well yeah it's a marketing spin, but it doesn't discount what he did and what it took to get there.
- Heliosmaster 14y agoroughly in 1hr from now he will get to the desired altitude.
- molmalo 14y agoIS someone else having trouble with youtube, showing "static" ? (can't connect to live stream)
- xwowsersx 14y agoyup
- jcollins1991 14y agoFor me it wouldn't load in Chrome but works perfectly in Firefox (on OSX)...
- toufka 14y agoyep - wouldn't work on my locked-down Firefox, but did fine on my vanilla Safari.
- morequestions 14y agotry - http://www.ustream.tv/cbsnews http://www.ustream.tv/cbsnews
- matwood 14y agoI was working for me and now that's all I'm getting too.
- corford 14y agoSame problem here. The BBC are also broadcasting and that stream is working fine for me. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19887652#TWEET272983 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19887652#TWEET...
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- dropshop 14y ago3,749,231 watching now popele watching live on youtube, this must be a record? Update: 4,924,693 watching now Update: 5,056,344 watching now
- xSwag 14y ago3.2M now, never seen it so high.
- pgrote 14y agoAmazing, isn't it. YouTube started in 2005 and 7 years later it is a distribution platform for live high quality video to more people than watch most broadcast/cable TV.
- dropshop 14y ago3,694,025 watching now!!! WOW
- waterlesscloud 14y agoFor comparison, Monday Night Football is usually low 20,000,000 range.
- yezooz 14y agojust before he landed there was almost 7,780,000 people watching
- arrrg 14y agoCould someone explain to me whether this is a marketing stunt and nothing more or whether there is some substance behind this? Put another way: Will any scientists or engineers (at least potentially) learn something interesting from this? It's cool no matter what, but it would be even cooler if there were some substance behind it.
- zer 14y agoThere's this page on their website that should help you answer your question: http://www.redbullstratos.com/science/scientific-values/ http://www.redbullstratos.com/science/scientific-values/
- brown9-2 14y agoThis article argues yes, there is more than marketing: http://www.wired.com/playbook/2012/10/felix-baumgartner-stratos/ http://www.wired.com/playbook/2012/10/felix-baumgartner-stra...
- kloncks 14y agoBesides proving our thoughts on what happens to the human body going through the speed of sound, there's an aspect of safety as well. If successful jumping at 120,000 feet, that means that NASA could deploy these same space suits as an exit plan for astronauts in an emergency.
- anonymfus 14y ago>that means that NASA could deploy these same space suits as an exit plan for astronauts in an emergency. What? For exit plan you need a way to slowdown astronaut from orbit first.
- sudhirj 14y agoThat might not be necessary... won't atmosphere provide enough lateral braking too? Either way, that's easier to do and requires far lesser equipment and prep than a re-entry capsule.
- brown9-2 14y agoIn the US at least, you can also watch live on TV on The Discovery Channel.
- dexter313 14y agoFelix's helmet heating apears to be broken. They've also cut the radio talk between Felix and Joseph.
- pilgrim689 14y agoyea I heard that too, and then the live feed stopped working as they were talking about the problem... freaked me out! But the feed is back on now.... Was the heating fixed? (edit: the feed cutting was probably just me, just saying it was an unfortunate time for it to do so) edit 2: They just said that the problem is specifically for the visor (to prevent fogging and icing), not the whole helmet... They still haven't found out what's wrong.
- pud 14y agoUpdate: They just said that it's just the visor heat that's broken -- not helmet heat. Visor heat are the wires in the glass that keep it from fogging, like the rear defroster in your car. And it seems they're not sure if the heat is broken, or just the thermometer.
- Shtirlic 14y agoWhere is the outside camera located?
- aparadja 14y agoDoes someone know the reason behind the poor quality of audio coming from Felix? You'd think they had the resources to put in a decent microphone, and data transfer -- judging by the high quality video -- shouldn't be a problem.
- ginko 14y agoI often wondered about a possibly connected thing about airplane pilot's microphones: Why is it that pilots, when addressing the fliers over intercom always have terrible sound quality? You'd think that airlines could afford a high-quality microphone considering the cost of the plane and the pilot's time. Air traffic control should appreciate quality audio as well. There could be some ruggedness requirement to these microphones that takes precedence over audio quality. Maybe they must withstand decompression?
- icegreentea 14y agoOne of the crazy things is that if you listen to ATC feeds long enough, you stop being aware of the 'quality issue'. EDIT: if you're interested, you can go right here! http://www.liveatc.net/ http://www.liveatc.net/ I transcribed hours of this stuff as part of a research project. The first 4 or so hours were really rough. After that, it got easier, with the majority of issues being that seemingly one in 20 aircraft actually have horrendous audio pickup, and accents.
- lmirosevic 14y agoMaybe the raw sound input is run through a band pass filter that attenuates all noise outside of the human vocal range. This would make the voice sound "bad" but it would actually make it clearer to understand, especially in noisy environments.
- aparadja 14y agoThat's actually a very likely explanation. Thank you.
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- morequestions 14y agoQuestion - is he going to land in the same country he took from?
- cjbprime 14y agoLooks like he's still over Roswell, NM; presumably so.
- molmalo 14y agoPeople, I've just made this little hack to show the location in a map: Go to http://www.redbullstratos.com/live/ http://www.redbullstratos.com/live/ and open the console to run: $("body").append('<script src="http://www.openlayers.org/api/OpenLayers.js"></script>') $("body").append("<div id='Map' style='width: 500px; height: 500px; position: absolute; left: 100px; top: 800px;'></div>") then (once openlayers.js is loaded), run this: CreateMap = function () { var lat = 33.3405; var lon = -103.7601; var zoom = 14; var fromProjection = new OpenLayers.Projection("EPSG:4326"); // Transform from WGS 1984 var toProjection = new OpenLayers.Projection("EPSG:900913"); // to Spherical Mercator Projection var position = new OpenLayers.LonLat(lon, lat).transform( fromProjection, toProjection); map = new OpenLayers.Map({ div: "Map", projection: "EPSG:900913", layers: [ new OpenLayers.Layer.XYZ( "OpenStreetMap", [ "http://otile1.mqcdn.com/tiles/1.0.0/osm/${z}/${x}/${y}.png", "http://otile2.mqcdn.com/tiles/1.0.0/osm/${z}/${x}/${y}.png", "http://otile3.mqcdn.com/tiles/1.0.0/osm/${z}/${x}/${y}.png", "http://otile4.mqcdn.com/tiles/1.0.0/osm/${z}/${x}/${y}.png" ], { attribution: "Data, imagery and map information provided by <a href='http://www.mapquest.com/' target='_blank'>MapQuest</a>, <a href='http://www.openstreetmap.org/' target='_blank'>Open Street Map</a> and contributors, <a href='http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/' target='_blank'>CC-BY-SA</a> <img src='http://developer.mapquest.com/content/osm/mq_logo.png' border='0'>", transitionEffect: "resize" } ), new OpenLayers.Layer.XYZ( "Imagery", [ "http://oatile1.mqcdn.com/naip/${z}/${x}/${y}.png", "http://oatile2.mqcdn.com/naip/${z}/${x}/${y}.png", "http://oatile3.mqcdn.com/naip/${z}/${x}/${y}.png", "http://oatile4.mqcdn.com/naip/${z}/${x}/${y}.png" ], { attribution: "Tiles Courtesy of <a href='http://open.mapquest.co.uk/' target='_blank'>MapQuest</a>. Portions Courtesy NASA/JPL-Caltech and U.S. Depart. of Agriculture, Farm Service Agency. <img src='http://developer.mapquest.com/content/osm/mq_logo.png' border='0'>", transitionEffect: "resize" } ) ], center: [0, 0], zoom: 1 }); map.addControl(new OpenLayers.Control.LayerSwitcher()); // map = new OpenLayers.Map("Map"); // var mapnik = new OpenLayers.Layer.OSM(); // map.addLayer(mapnik); markers = new OpenLayers.Layer.Markers( "Markers" ); map.addLayer(markers); marker = new OpenLayers.Marker(position); markers.addMarker(marker); map.setCenter(position, zoom); }; CreateMap(); setInterval(function() { markers.removeMarker(marker); var lat = parseFloat( $("#latitude").html()); var lon = parseFloat( $("#longitude").html()); var fromProjection = new OpenLayers.Projection("EPSG:4326"); // Transform from WGS 1984 var toProjection = new OpenLayers.Projection("EPSG:900913"); // to Spherical Mercator Projection var position = new OpenLayers.LonLat(lon, lat).transform( fromProjection, toProjection); marker = new OpenLayers.Marker(position); markers.addMarker(marker); map.setCenter(position, map.zoom); },2000) Now, at the bottom of the page, you have a map with a marker showing the current location. Update: [Added] Go first to http://www.redbullstratos.com/live/ http://www.redbullstratos.com/live/ Update 2: Replaced tiles, with the ones from MapQuest, code for mapquest extracted from: http://openlayers.org/dev/examples/mapquest.html http://openlayers.org/dev/examples/mapquest.html Update 3: fixed little bug introduced ;) Sorry! And placed the map below the video now, so it's easier to view.
- raganwald 14y agoFYI, this is the anniversary of Chuck Yeager breaking the speed of sound in the Bell X-1 in 1947: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_X-1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_X-1
- meric 14y agoHow appropriate, today is the day Felix Baumgartner broke the speed of sound in a pressurized suit.
- kristopher 14y agoIt seems like some of YouTube's region-based relay stations are down. Temporarily changing DNS to a US-based ISP is advisable. (Viewing from Japan)
- tisme 14y agoThe guy commenting on the video seems absolutely clueless.
- benmanns 14y agoHere's the JSON endpoint with the data from the launch: http://services.redbullstratos.com/LiveData/Get http://services.redbullstratos.com/LiveData/Get
- LinaLauneBaer 14y agoI am having terrible problems using youtube to view the live stream. I am getting "stops" for about 5-10 seconds constantly. Sometimes I have to refresh the whole youtube page to get it working again. Earlier they said that over 100 sites are streaming the event... does anybody know about the best working site?
- revelation 14y agoSee ServusTV with german commentary: http://www.servustv.com/cs/Satellite?pagename=Stratos/Layout http://www.servustv.com/cs/Satellite?pagename=Stratos/Layout
- dsr12 14y agoI really liked the mission timeline page: http://www.redbullstratos.com/the-mission/mission-timeline http://www.redbullstratos.com/the-mission/mission-timeline
- Arjuna 14y agoFor those that are curious, the stream is being narrated by Robert Hager [1][2]. [1] http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3688609/ns/nbcnightlynews/t/robert-hager/ http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3688609/ns/nbcnightlynews/t/robe... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hager https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hager
- Pyrodogg 14y agoThanks. I didn't recognize the voice but I was really glad that they had a nice narrator for all of this live internet coverage.
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- mckoss 14y agoAlmost 5 million people watching live now. Compare to presidential debate with 67 million viewers - not bad!
- codesuela 14y agoHow much bandwidth do 5.4 mio viewers consume? Can someone give me a number?
- meritt 14y ago360p uses 0.5Mbit/s. 5.4M * 0.5Mbit/s = ~330 GB/s
- leot 14y agoSee also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicast http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicast
- devicenull 14y agoMulticast requires all the intermediate routers support it, I thought. Is that really the case? I can't imagine big routers at ISPs allowing multicast.
- tcas 14y agoIt's definitely not full multicast. Flash doesn't support multicast (if I recall correctly). They're probably doing a single stream to CDNs which then fan them out.
- lifeformed 14y agoAt first glance, skydiving from 10k feet and 100k feet seem like they wouldn't be any different. I'm sure there are intricacies that make the jump very difficult, but it seems like you just let gravity do the work, and the chute automatically deploys for you. Can anyone help me understand what the intricacies are? EDIT: nevermind, seeing him spin but regain control removed my doubt of the difficulty.
- Mithrandir 14y agoHis parachute deployed! :D And he landed! http://i.imgur.com/l8z0k.png http://i.imgur.com/l8z0k.png There was some issue with his heat visor, but that was resolved. Edit: More images I screen-snapped (sorry about the low-quality, I'm sure HQ images will be out soon): http://i.imgur.com/ZWvSs.png http://i.imgur.com/ZWvSs.png http://i.imgur.com/ZNQu2.png http://i.imgur.com/ZNQu2.png http://i.imgur.com/ZFRIq.png http://i.imgur.com/ZFRIq.png http://i.imgur.com/eZBhB.png http://i.imgur.com/eZBhB.png
- nphrk 14y agoJust landed!
- brianmwaters 14y agoToday, I am in New Mexico hanging off a wind turbine blade (that's what I do for work), when I noticed a strange looking balloon in the sky off to the north west. I radioed my ground support guy, who got on his iPhone, and sure enough, it's the supersonic skydiver. Talk about front row seats!
- bmac27 14y agoJust incredible to watch something like that live. Held my breath the whole time, particular through free fall. When you see him sitting up there from 120,000 feet like he's on a rocking chair, it sort of puts into perspective any time you think you were brave in your life!
- nodata 14y agoTo Red Bull: fix your coverage next time! Your website and Twitter feeds weren't really ever carrying the latest information pre-launch, and your blog was 24 hours out-of-date whenever I checked. (Also YouTube was buffering, it wasn't my connection). Bit of a mess from the PR-masters imo.
- goostavos 14y agoAre you positive it wasn't your connection? It worked perfectly for me, as well as (seemingly) quite a few others. I'm going to go buy a Red Bull now.
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- nodata 14y agoI doubt it, it's a 50 mbit connection.
- phpnode 14y agoI really dislike comments like this. What happened today was an impressive technical achievement by any measure, and for me at least, one of the most nail bitingly tense things I've ever seen broadcast, and yet we still get people calling it a "bit of a mess", criticizing utterly trivial issues, because that's all they can criticize. Perhaps YouTube was buffering because of the MILLIONS of people watching this amazing event? PR mess? You've got to be kidding.
- henrikschroder 14y agoThere were three HD cameras on the capsule, streaming video down to ground control, and from there onto YouTube and millions of viewers. It's the fucking future, and noone is appreciating it.
- dennyferra 14y agoUnfortunately I barely missed the live jump. Will a recorded video be posted, or is there one already available?
- yotsechan 14y agoYes, the video will be posted youtube.com/redbull in the next few hours.
- bestest 14y agoOnce again, title creators succumb to the power of relativity. My eyes keep on skimming on this topic, and it makes me want to laugh and cry at the same time. "Today" is awesome.