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My POV is Americans are not an ally in any case, and all efforts must be made to increase self-reliance and disentanglement from the US. Both parties of the US
by u_sama 9mo ago
My POV is Americans are not an ally in any case, and all efforts must be made to increase self-reliance and disentanglement from the US. Both parties of the US disrregard european interests.
An argument can be made the Internet is actually Chinese because the atoms your bit relies on are mostly produced in China or Taiwan.
- m3nat33 9mo ago> My POV is Americans are not an ally in any case So you are an enemy of someone because of where they were born?
- Ygg2 9mo agoNo, you become enemy if someone unlawfully, and uni-laterally annexes a part of your territory. For example see Ukraine.
- ted_bunny 9mo agoI don't have any enmity against poisonous snakes.
- mikkupikku 9mo agoRightfully so, poisonous snakes won't hurt you unless you eat them.
- atwrk 9mo agono it means u_sama has (correctly, IMO) observed that the US has made it very clear in the past year that they don't regard the EU as an ally. I mean the openly talk about annexing EU territory right now.
- chkchk 9mo agoThat assumes that all Americans support the actions of the current administration. I know of no one that supports these actions.
- miroljub 9mo agoI don't see mass protests across USA against Grenland policy of current US regime.
- coeneedell 9mo agoThen you’re not paying attention. The US is currently experiencing the largest wave of mass protests in its history. The corporate media is simply ignoring it. Practically every trump administration action has triggered nation-wide protests. https://ash.harvard.edu/programs/crowd-counting-consortium/ https://ash.harvard.edu/programs/crowd-counting-consortium/
- EGG_CREAM 9mo agoThat’s because our mass protests are focused on the overseas concentration camps, illegal detainment and arrests, and the other authoritarian moves our president has made. It’s true that Americans in general care little about foreign policy. It’s not an anti-Europe thing, it’s just that people care about stuff that more immediately affects them. European countries are smaller and more integrated, so foreign policy has a more immediate affect on them. Foreign policy has a dramatic affect on Americans lives, but it’s usually indirect and therefore not top of mind for the average citizen. That doesn’t mean we like our government’s foreign policy. And all that’s without mentioning that many believe the Greenland talk is not serious, and simply a distraction, and therefore mass protests would actually be playing into the admins hands.
- buellerbueller 9mo agoWhen is the last time mass protest has worked in the USA? Somewhat self-fulfilling, sure, but it's been decades. What might work are mass strikes.
- dspillett 9mo agoUnless your government is entirely forced upon you, they're is only so far the populace can distance itself from them. The majority of the bad crap this American administration is doing and has done was predicted, heck a lot of it they effectively promised during & before the election, yet nearly two thirds of the population either directly voted for it or sat on their elbows and let it happen.
- nradov 9mo agoWhich EU territory would that be? If you're referring to Greenland, it's actually not part of the EU.
- shafyy 9mo agoWhy not taking two seconds to look it up before making such a false statement? From Wikipedia: > Citizens of Greenland are full citizens of Denmark and of the European Union. Greenland is one of the Overseas Countries and Territories of the European Union and is part of the Council of Europe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland
- liquidgecka 9mo agoThere is confusion here because Greenland is not part of the EU directly (they were, they left) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland_and_the_European_Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland_and_the_European_Uni... Its citizens are members of the EU but its territory is not. Greenland is part of NATO though, and has a trade alliance with the EU so its territorial status is very complicated.
- nradov 9mo agoIt's always disappointing to see that level of aggressive ignorance on HN. I flagged your comment because you're lying and spreading misinformation. Greenland is associated to the European Union but is is not and never has been part of the European Union; it was previously part of the predecessor organization the European Communities but withdrew before the EU was founded. Next time take two seconds to look it up.
- shafyy 9mo agoI never said it was a full part of the EU, I even posted the quote from Wikipedia that specifies the situation. But saying that Greenland is not part of EU is also wrong. Even though it might not be a regular member state, it is a territory of Denmark, which is certainly part of the EU.
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- techdmn 9mo agoAm American, can confirm. I largely disagree with the idea that U.S. citizens chose their government, there are many, many filters, restrictions and unnecessary complications specifically designed to prevent politics having too much influence on policy, and our militarized police force is only too happy to deal with any inconvenient protestors. (Not to mention literal military deployments to several of our cities.) On the other hand, I am routinely amazed at enthusiasm among the public for surveillance, such as the opinion that FLOCK cameras are justified because they might help catch people exceeding the speed limit. Never underestimate the average person's desire to monitor and control other people. Edit to clarify: I and many Americans are trying hard to be your allies, but it's not clear we have the leverage to be effective. Shit is locked down pretty tight over here.
- bigyabai 9mo agoNevermind the supply chain issue, America apparently has extenuating issues booting China off their internal networks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_Typhoon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_Typhoon