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Cool game, but I don't like how you get only one chance. Even returning to the page, you can't try again to beat your previous score. No replayability value at

Cool game, but I don't like how you get only one chance. Even returning to the page, you can't try again to beat your previous score. No replayability value at all.

MrGilbert 10mo ago
I disagree about the replayability aspect. It‘s a daily challenge, so come back tomorrow. I quite like it.
- bgbntty2 10mo ago
  I seriously don't get the idea behind daily challenges unless you want to keep users hooked to extract some value from them, but that doesn't seem to be the case here, as there are no ads. Just show all the different levels at once.
  - MrGilbert 10mo ago
    That's fine. So these kind of games aren't for you, then. Remember crosswords in newspapers? Yeah, think of it like that. You don't get hooked until you cannot let go, you get a limited chunk served each day. Same with Wordle.
    - bgbntty2 10mo ago
      I remember buying a magazine full of crosswords and similar puzzles when I was in the mood. And when there were sites with unlimited Wordle, I played a few in a row. On the internet, unlike with newspapers, you're not limited to how many levels/games you can make per day. Making it once per day doesn't make any sense whatsoever. It's condescending to the users and feels like a power trip.
      - anonymous908213 10mo ago
        You can freely make levels and browse other people's levels. The complaining about power trips seems as uncharitable a perspective as you could possibly conceive of, not to mention a bit theatric.
      - rtgfhyuj 10mo ago
        so don’t? others have said they like it, you don’t, move on
      - sunrunner 10mo ago
        > It's condescending to the users and feels like a power trip. condescending (adjective): having or showing an attitude of patronizing superiority. I don't really see how a once-a-day puzzle is condescending, unless it's a "You can't be trusted to regulate yourself so I'll do it for you" type thing. Adding a dictionary definition like above, however, probably is condescending :) But I like the one-a-day format because, as other comments have said, you can spend an entire day with just one puzzle feeling important (relative to things that are important).
  - Skeime 10mo ago
    I assume that "all the different levels" might not exist yet. The author is probably creating them a bit in advance, and will keep going as long as they're motivated. Having a regular schedule for new releases helps, and doing it daily seems as sensible as any other schedule.
  - rbits 10mo ago
    If you click the menu button in the top right you can play all the past puzzles
  - sfink 10mo ago
    > you want to keep users hooked to extract some value from them Ironically, that's what I initially liked about the daily puzzles like Wordle: they forcibly prevented you from sinking too much time into them. It was sort of like, "hey here's something cool, and I'm going to make sure it's a positive addition to your life by preventing you from succumbing to your own addictive impulses". You could call that condescending or infantilizing, but to me it's just part of the look and feel of a thing. Especially if the author isn't charging money, they get to use whatever tools are at their disposal to craft the users' experience of it. Wordle Over And Over Again is a different game than Wordle Once Daily. (And WOAOA done properly would probably have a progression of difficulties, or themes, or something, whereas WOD makes more sense with pure randomness.)
anigbrowl 10mo ago
It shows you what the exit routes are, what your score will be, and you can move the gates around as long as you want, so the means of finding the maximum area are entirely within your grasp.
- sceptic123 10mo ago
  But you have no idea what the optimal solution is, are you 1,10,50 away from it. Would be nice to have some indicator of how close you are before you submit, though I guess that's intentional.
  - ryanjshaw 10mo ago
    I believe that’s the point. I had the optimal solution for some time but was convinced there was something better. Eventually I submitted, and seeing the perfect score was more thrilling after convincing myself I was an idiot.
  - butlike 10mo ago
    If it told you how close you were then you could just brute force your way to a perfect score every board by trying each square.
    - sceptic123 10mo ago
      But if you remember the best score isn't that approach still possible?
klohto 10mo ago
bruh it’s like Wordle, come back tomorrow
QuantumNomad_ 10mo ago
You get one submit but you can press reset and find better solutions even though you can’t submit it to the leaderboard
geoffschmidt 10mo ago
Click the sandwich icon in the top right, then either Past Puzzles or Browse, and you can play more puzzles. (Or even create and submit your own.)
hombre_fatal 10mo ago
The one shot per day provides a reason to sink your teeth into one board. I love Wordle but I found it unplayable when I used that Wordle archive site to play infinite games since there was no reason to think deeply about the 10th+ round I was playing in one sitting.
zwnow 10mo ago
You can just test without submitting though?
matsemann 10mo ago
You can just remove/change walls after having placed all. You see your current score, but can keep iterating.
- hn8726 10mo ago
  Yes but it would be nice to see the targets, so you know how far off from an optimal solution you are. I know I'd spend more time looking for better solves if I knew the current one can be improved
goodmatt 10mo ago
Clear cookies?
gs17 10mo ago
IMO they should have a (second) pop-up that warns you that you only get one submit. Not sure if it should let you know if you've made an optimal solution or not, but since it's not timed there's no cost in slowing people down. I've seen similar daily puzzles where you get to see the leaderboard and then can go back and optimize further. Yes, it says it at the beginning, but it's still easy to forget.

Cool game, but I don't like how you get only one chance. Even returning to the page, you can't try again to beat your previous score. No replayability value at all.

MrGilbert 10mo ago

I disagree about the replayability aspect. It‘s a daily challenge, so come back tomorrow. I quite like it.

bgbntty2 10mo ago
I seriously don't get the idea behind daily challenges unless you want to keep users hooked to extract some value from them, but that doesn't seem to be the case here, as there are no ads. Just show all the different levels at once.
- MrGilbert 10mo ago
  That's fine. So these kind of games aren't for you, then. Remember crosswords in newspapers? Yeah, think of it like that. You don't get hooked until you cannot let go, you get a limited chunk served each day. Same with Wordle.
  - bgbntty2 10mo ago
    I remember buying a magazine full of crosswords and similar puzzles when I was in the mood. And when there were sites with unlimited Wordle, I played a few in a row. On the internet, unlike with newspapers, you're not limited to how many levels/games you can make per day. Making it once per day doesn't make any sense whatsoever. It's condescending to the users and feels like a power trip.
    - anonymous908213 10mo ago
      You can freely make levels and browse other people's levels. The complaining about power trips seems as uncharitable a perspective as you could possibly conceive of, not to mention a bit theatric.
    - rtgfhyuj 10mo ago
      so don’t? others have said they like it, you don’t, move on
    - sunrunner 10mo ago
      > It's condescending to the users and feels like a power trip. condescending (adjective): having or showing an attitude of patronizing superiority. I don't really see how a once-a-day puzzle is condescending, unless it's a "You can't be trusted to regulate yourself so I'll do it for you" type thing. Adding a dictionary definition like above, however, probably is condescending :) But I like the one-a-day format because, as other comments have said, you can spend an entire day with just one puzzle feeling important (relative to things that are important).
- Skeime 10mo ago
  I assume that "all the different levels" might not exist yet. The author is probably creating them a bit in advance, and will keep going as long as they're motivated. Having a regular schedule for new releases helps, and doing it daily seems as sensible as any other schedule.
- rbits 10mo ago
  If you click the menu button in the top right you can play all the past puzzles
- sfink 10mo ago
  > you want to keep users hooked to extract some value from them Ironically, that's what I initially liked about the daily puzzles like Wordle: they forcibly prevented you from sinking too much time into them. It was sort of like, "hey here's something cool, and I'm going to make sure it's a positive addition to your life by preventing you from succumbing to your own addictive impulses". You could call that condescending or infantilizing, but to me it's just part of the look and feel of a thing. Especially if the author isn't charging money, they get to use whatever tools are at their disposal to craft the users' experience of it. Wordle Over And Over Again is a different game than Wordle Once Daily. (And WOAOA done properly would probably have a progression of difficulties, or themes, or something, whereas WOD makes more sense with pure randomness.)

anigbrowl 10mo ago

It shows you what the exit routes are, what your score will be, and you can move the gates around as long as you want, so the means of finding the maximum area are entirely within your grasp.

sceptic123 10mo ago
But you have no idea what the optimal solution is, are you 1,10,50 away from it. Would be nice to have some indicator of how close you are before you submit, though I guess that's intentional.
- ryanjshaw 10mo ago
  I believe that’s the point. I had the optimal solution for some time but was convinced there was something better. Eventually I submitted, and seeing the perfect score was more thrilling after convincing myself I was an idiot.
- butlike 10mo ago
  If it told you how close you were then you could just brute force your way to a perfect score every board by trying each square.
  - sceptic123 10mo ago
    But if you remember the best score isn't that approach still possible?

klohto 10mo ago

bruh it’s like Wordle, come back tomorrow

QuantumNomad_ 10mo ago

You get one submit but you can press reset and find better solutions even though you can’t submit it to the leaderboard

geoffschmidt 10mo ago

Click the sandwich icon in the top right, then either Past Puzzles or Browse, and you can play more puzzles. (Or even create and submit your own.)

hombre_fatal 10mo ago

The one shot per day provides a reason to sink your teeth into one board. I love Wordle but I found it unplayable when I used that Wordle archive site to play infinite games since there was no reason to think deeply about the 10th+ round I was playing in one sitting.

zwnow 10mo ago

You can just test without submitting though?

matsemann 10mo ago

You can just remove/change walls after having placed all. You see your current score, but can keep iterating.

hn8726 10mo ago
Yes but it would be nice to see the targets, so you know how far off from an optimal solution you are. I know I'd spend more time looking for better solves if I knew the current one can be improved

goodmatt 10mo ago

Clear cookies?

gs17 10mo ago

IMO they should have a (second) pop-up that warns you that you only get one submit. Not sure if it should let you know if you've made an optimal solution or not, but since it's not timed there's no cost in slowing people down. I've seen similar daily puzzles where you get to see the leaderboard and then can go back and optimize further. Yes, it says it at the beginning, but it's still easy to forget.