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> 99% of the “creativity” is done by the AI…it's taken from other people's (creative) work. Yes, and prior to AI, 99% of creativity was also taken from other p

by pembrook 10mo ago

> 99% of the “creativity” is done by the AI…it's taken from other people's (creative) work. Yes, and prior to AI, 99% of creativity was also taken from other peoples work. This is how creativity works. Man has no ideas in a vacuum. As humans we take influences in from what we’ve seen and when we “create” things we’re simply combining things together, resulting in output falling somewhere on the spectrum from a 1:1 copy to somewhat novel. If you can’t spot the influences in a painting or song or piece of graphic design, it’s simply because you aren’t deeply familiar with prior works in the field at the time.

YurgenJurgensen 10mo ago
Oh boy, it’s this again. You’re essentially admitting to having had no meaningful experiences in your entire life, as you’re incapable of imagining doing anything other than consuming content. Good art says something about the world, not other art.
- pembrook 10mo ago
  How ironic that your response, "Good art says something about the world" is also just repeating a meme you've heard, a no-true-scotsman fallacy wrapped in an old cliche. It's a meaningless, religious statement. Good art is impossible to define, and everything says something about the world. I too can repeat tired memes to support my position, ie. Good artists copy, great artists steal. The truth is, the process of creation starts with something called inspiration. Inspiration is theft. Again, man has no ideas in a vacuum. As you believe you've led a far more interesting life than me (!), please cite some examples of what you believe to be "good" art. Then let's investigate how devoid of any influences it actually is.
  - YurgenJurgensen 10mo ago
    Well, your claim was 99%, and you’re making the claim so the burden of proof is on you, so you first: Give me ninety-nine examples that support your position and explain why for each of them, and then I’ll give my one and do the same and we can see who has the stronger body of evidence.

YurgenJurgensen 10mo ago

Oh boy, it’s this again. You’re essentially admitting to having had no meaningful experiences in your entire life, as you’re incapable of imagining doing anything other than consuming content. Good art says something about the world, not other art.

pembrook 10mo ago
How ironic that your response, "Good art says something about the world" is also just repeating a meme you've heard, a no-true-scotsman fallacy wrapped in an old cliche. It's a meaningless, religious statement. Good art is impossible to define, and everything says something about the world. I too can repeat tired memes to support my position, ie. Good artists copy, great artists steal. The truth is, the process of creation starts with something called inspiration. Inspiration is theft. Again, man has no ideas in a vacuum. As you believe you've led a far more interesting life than me (!), please cite some examples of what you believe to be "good" art. Then let's investigate how devoid of any influences it actually is.
- YurgenJurgensen 10mo ago
  Well, your claim was 99%, and you’re making the claim so the burden of proof is on you, so you first: Give me ninety-nine examples that support your position and explain why for each of them, and then I’ll give my one and do the same and we can see who has the stronger body of evidence.