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I have an idea for a movie. Its kind of an epic idea - more about the characters, story and the feeling. I want to get the idea across as close as possible to w

I have an idea for a movie. Its kind of an epic idea - more about the characters, story and the feeling. I want to get the idea across as close as possible to what is in my head. AI has given me the opportunity to do it. I just have to keep prompting to get the exact feeling and I can share my idea. I don't like these curmudgeonly takes.. I'm sure this "All AI Videos Are Harmful" take will age just like how "All videos are harmful" and "All cartoons are harmful" have aged.

miltonlost 10mo ago
Cool, but what about the rampant fraud portion of the article?
- simianwords 10mo ago
  that's cool. every new technology can be used in both ways
layer8 10mo ago
> I want to get the idea across as close as possible to what is in my head. In my experience, AI is poorly suited for that, unless what you have in mind is just some remix of what already exists.
andyfilms1 10mo ago
While I appreciate your positive experience, if you were unable to write, storyboard, and communicate your idea before AI--than AI is not going to be "the thing" that suddenly turns you into a filmmaker. You're writing anyway, you just call it prompting. If you feel that the AI is giving you back more than what you're putting in with that writing, you have to ask yourself who's vision the result really is.
- simianwords 10mo ago
  Would you say the same thing for cartoonists? Don’t call it film making, call it something else. You are just drawing. Your video camera is also giving you more than what you put in it.
  - drakythe 10mo ago
    Animating is a ton of work. Animation decisions can give a great deal of "feel" to a cartoon. Studio Ghibli works are distinct from Disney's old animation and each conveys a distinct feeling. Those decisions are often made by the production team. Its why One Punch Man season 3 is so derided this year after Season 1 was heralded as the greatest season of Anime in a very long time. You'd think following the literal story boards provided by the already published Manga would be simple! but somehow it lost all of its charm. Animation, or shooting video is the result of many, many pieces. If you're not putting a ton of work into the decisions that result in the final "shot" the video camera makes then the video that is shot isn't magically going to show an enormous amount of care in its construction.
- Gagarin1917 10mo ago
  >if you were unable to write, storyboard, and communicate your idea before AI--than AI is not going to be "the thing" that suddenly turns you into a filmmaker. The person you are replying to doesn’t say that they couldn’t do these aspects before. In fact they mention that they are able to communicate EXACTLY what they want to AI. The only problem was that their idea is high concept. Getting a high concept film made is one of the most privileged positions in the world. Practically no one can actually just do this. Even people in the film industry with family connections to producers struggle to get their films made. You have no idea what you’re asking from people when you tell them they should have just made it. > You're writing anyway, you just call it prompting. If you feel that the AI is giving you back more than what you're putting in with that writing, you have to ask yourself who's vision the result really is. They didn’t say that, they said they were getting exactly what they were seeing in their head.
epolanski 10mo ago
Imho this is as if you were a music producer and instead of synthesizing the sound you want you were exploring random presets till you found one that matched.
- stevenhuang 10mo ago
  You say that as if that's not something creatives genuinely spend a lot of time on. Just look at piano vsts, everyone keeps trying things until they find something they particularly like. There's no difference here.
erelong 10mo ago
> I don't like these curmudgeonly takes me neither. I think there's a real sense of concern, but that people are also just being contrarian or are maybe acting out of a concern for their job or something. Seems like a lot of people have had the opposite experience, that a lot of AI vids are not harmful but have in a lot of cases been funny or helpful. People need time to experiment with the tech and see what impact it has on society before they adjust their expectations to its real impact.

miltonlost 10mo ago

Cool, but what about the rampant fraud portion of the article?

simianwords 10mo ago
that's cool. every new technology can be used in both ways

layer8 10mo ago

> I want to get the idea across as close as possible to what is in my head. In my experience, AI is poorly suited for that, unless what you have in mind is just some remix of what already exists.

andyfilms1 10mo ago

While I appreciate your positive experience, if you were unable to write, storyboard, and communicate your idea before AI--than AI is not going to be "the thing" that suddenly turns you into a filmmaker. You're writing anyway, you just call it prompting. If you feel that the AI is giving you back more than what you're putting in with that writing, you have to ask yourself who's vision the result really is.

simianwords 10mo ago
Would you say the same thing for cartoonists? Don’t call it film making, call it something else. You are just drawing. Your video camera is also giving you more than what you put in it.
- drakythe 10mo ago
  Animating is a ton of work. Animation decisions can give a great deal of "feel" to a cartoon. Studio Ghibli works are distinct from Disney's old animation and each conveys a distinct feeling. Those decisions are often made by the production team. Its why One Punch Man season 3 is so derided this year after Season 1 was heralded as the greatest season of Anime in a very long time. You'd think following the literal story boards provided by the already published Manga would be simple! but somehow it lost all of its charm. Animation, or shooting video is the result of many, many pieces. If you're not putting a ton of work into the decisions that result in the final "shot" the video camera makes then the video that is shot isn't magically going to show an enormous amount of care in its construction.
Gagarin1917 10mo ago
>if you were unable to write, storyboard, and communicate your idea before AI--than AI is not going to be "the thing" that suddenly turns you into a filmmaker. The person you are replying to doesn’t say that they couldn’t do these aspects before. In fact they mention that they are able to communicate EXACTLY what they want to AI. The only problem was that their idea is high concept. Getting a high concept film made is one of the most privileged positions in the world. Practically no one can actually just do this. Even people in the film industry with family connections to producers struggle to get their films made. You have no idea what you’re asking from people when you tell them they should have just made it. > You're writing anyway, you just call it prompting. If you feel that the AI is giving you back more than what you're putting in with that writing, you have to ask yourself who's vision the result really is. They didn’t say that, they said they were getting exactly what they were seeing in their head.

epolanski 10mo ago

Imho this is as if you were a music producer and instead of synthesizing the sound you want you were exploring random presets till you found one that matched.

stevenhuang 10mo ago
You say that as if that's not something creatives genuinely spend a lot of time on. Just look at piano vsts, everyone keeps trying things until they find something they particularly like. There's no difference here.

erelong 10mo ago

> I don't like these curmudgeonly takes me neither. I think there's a real sense of concern, but that people are also just being contrarian or are maybe acting out of a concern for their job or something. Seems like a lot of people have had the opposite experience, that a lot of AI vids are not harmful but have in a lot of cases been funny or helpful. People need time to experiment with the tech and see what impact it has on society before they adjust their expectations to its real impact.