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That is one law I could get behind actually: the absolute requirement to label any and all AI output by using a duplicate of all of Unicode that looks the same

by jacquesm 10mo ago

That is one law I could get behind actually: the absolute requirement to label any and all AI output by using a duplicate of all of Unicode that looks the same and feels the same but is actually binary in a different space. And then browsers and text editors could render this according to the user's settings.

amelius 10mo ago
Yes, it would already help if they started with whitespace and punctuation. That would already give a big clue as to what is AI generated. In fact, using a different scheme, we can start now: U+200B — ZERO WIDTH SPACE Require that any space in AI output is followed by this zero-width character. If this is not acceptable then maybe apply a similar rule to the period character (so the number of "odd" characters is reduced to one per sentence).
- tgv 10mo ago
  Unfortunately, people here know their way around tools to take out the markers. Probably someone will vibe up a browser plugin for it.
  - patates 10mo ago
    I sometimes use AI to fix my English (especially when I'm trying to say something that pushes my grammar skill to the limit) and people like me can use that to inform others about that. Bad actors will always do weird stuff, this is more about people like me who want to be honest, but signing with (generated/edited with AI) is too much noise.
    - amelius 10mo ago
      Yes, and I think the big AI companies will want to have AI-generated data tagged, because otherwise it would spoil their training data in the long run.
      - jacquesm 10mo ago
        I would not be at all surprised if they already watermark their output but just didn't bother to tell us about it.
    - tgv 10mo ago
      A little bit of advice: don't copy and paste the LLM's output, but actively read and memorize it (phrase by phrase), and then edit your text. It helps developing your competence. Not a lot, and it takes time, but consciously improving your own text can help.
      - patates 10mo ago
        Thank you for the advice, I'll try next time!

amelius 10mo ago

Yes, it would already help if they started with whitespace and punctuation. That would already give a big clue as to what is AI generated. In fact, using a different scheme, we can start now: U+200B — ZERO WIDTH SPACE Require that any space in AI output is followed by this zero-width character. If this is not acceptable then maybe apply a similar rule to the period character (so the number of "odd" characters is reduced to one per sentence).

tgv 10mo ago
Unfortunately, people here know their way around tools to take out the markers. Probably someone will vibe up a browser plugin for it.
- patates 10mo ago
  I sometimes use AI to fix my English (especially when I'm trying to say something that pushes my grammar skill to the limit) and people like me can use that to inform others about that. Bad actors will always do weird stuff, this is more about people like me who want to be honest, but signing with (generated/edited with AI) is too much noise.
  - amelius 10mo ago
    Yes, and I think the big AI companies will want to have AI-generated data tagged, because otherwise it would spoil their training data in the long run.
    - jacquesm 10mo ago
      I would not be at all surprised if they already watermark their output but just didn't bother to tell us about it.
  - tgv 10mo ago
    A little bit of advice: don't copy and paste the LLM's output, but actively read and memorize it (phrase by phrase), and then edit your text. It helps developing your competence. Not a lot, and it takes time, but consciously improving your own text can help.
    - patates 10mo ago
      Thank you for the advice, I'll try next time!