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Be warned: LLM writing. Lots of negative parallelisms.

by croemer 10mo ago

amelius 10mo ago
Speaking of which, why aren't the LLMs solving these low level plumbing problems for us yet?
- croemer 10mo ago
  Because LLMs mostly follow historical practice. And examples for bad error handling are more common (and easier) than good error handling.
  - amelius 10mo ago
    I'm pretty sure an LLM will be able to handle an instruction such as: "Wherever exceptions are thrown, add as much contextual information to the exceptions as possible. Use class RichException<Exception> to store the extra information". Etc. etc.
    - croemer 10mo ago
      Sure, but writing and maintaining such instructions is also work. And not something one thinks about usually until the debugging session with insufficient errors.
Lvl999Noob 10mo ago
Yeah. Certainly felt like that. On the other hand, the content does seem good. It definitely wasn't slop, even if I can't judge how useful it really was (in terms of giving a solution).
alienbaby 10mo ago
What is it you are actually warning me of?
- croemer 10mo ago
  That it is mostly LLM words which some of us here don't really like to read as it can be low entropy in language, structure, ideas.
tison 10mo ago
This is the pull request of this post: https://github.com/fast/fast.github.io/pull/12 https://github.com/fast/fast.github.io/pull/12 See comments like https://github.com/fast/fast.github.io/pull/12#discussion_r2659513332 https://github.com/fast/fast.github.io/pull/12#discussion_r2... Quote my comment in the other thread: > That said, exn benefits something from anyhow: https://github.com/fast/exn/pull/18 https://github.com/fast/exn/pull/18, and we feed back our practices to error-stack where we come from: https://github.com/hashintel/hash/issues/667#issuecomment-3390645563 https://github.com/hashintel/hash/issues/667#issuecomment-33... > While I have my opinions on existing crates, I believe we can share experiences and finally converge on a common good solution, no matter who made it.

Be warned: LLM writing. Lots of negative parallelisms.

by croemer 10mo ago

Be warned: LLM writing. Lots of negative parallelisms.

amelius 10mo ago

Speaking of which, why aren't the LLMs solving these low level plumbing problems for us yet?

croemer 10mo ago
Because LLMs mostly follow historical practice. And examples for bad error handling are more common (and easier) than good error handling.
- amelius 10mo ago
  I'm pretty sure an LLM will be able to handle an instruction such as: "Wherever exceptions are thrown, add as much contextual information to the exceptions as possible. Use class RichException<Exception> to store the extra information". Etc. etc.
  - croemer 10mo ago
    Sure, but writing and maintaining such instructions is also work. And not something one thinks about usually until the debugging session with insufficient errors.

Lvl999Noob 10mo ago

Yeah. Certainly felt like that. On the other hand, the content does seem good. It definitely wasn't slop, even if I can't judge how useful it really was (in terms of giving a solution).

alienbaby 10mo ago

What is it you are actually warning me of?

croemer 10mo ago
That it is mostly LLM words which some of us here don't really like to read as it can be low entropy in language, structure, ideas.

tison 10mo ago

This is the pull request of this post: https://github.com/fast/fast.github.io/pull/12 https://github.com/fast/fast.github.io/pull/12 See comments like https://github.com/fast/fast.github.io/pull/12#discussion_r2659513332 https://github.com/fast/fast.github.io/pull/12#discussion_r2... Quote my comment in the other thread: > That said, exn benefits something from anyhow: https://github.com/fast/exn/pull/18 https://github.com/fast/exn/pull/18, and we feed back our practices to error-stack where we come from: https://github.com/hashintel/hash/issues/667#issuecomment-3390645563 https://github.com/hashintel/hash/issues/667#issuecomment-33... > While I have my opinions on existing crates, I believe we can share experiences and finally converge on a common good solution, no matter who made it.