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Surely searching "centre a div" takes less time than prompting and waiting for a response...
by llmslave2 9mo ago
Surely searching "centre a div" takes less time than prompting and waiting for a response...
- duggan 9mo agoSearch “centre a div” in Google Wade through ads Skim a treatise on the history of centering content Skim over the “this question is off topic / duplicate” noise if Stack Overflow Find some code on the page Try to map how that code will work in the context of your other layout Realize it’s plain CSS and you’re looking for Tailwind Keep searching Try some stuff until it works Or… Ask LLM. Wait 20-30 seconds. Move on to the next thing.
- bitwize 9mo agoWait till the VC tap gets shut off. You: Hey ChatGPT, help me center a div. ChatGPT: Certainly, I'd be glad to help! But first you must drink a verification can to proceed. Or: ChatGPT: I'm sorry, you appear to be asking a development-related question, which your current plan does not support. Would you like me to enable "Dev Mode" for an additional $200/month? Drink a verification can to accept charges.
- duggan 9mo agoI mean sure, that could happen. Either it's worth $200/month to you, or you get back to writing code by hand.
- llmslave2 9mo agoCalling it now: AI withdrawal will become a documented disorder.
- freedomben 9mo agoI can absolutely see that happening. It's already kind of happened to me a couple of times when I found myself offline and was still trying to work on my local app. Like any addiction, I expect it to cost me some money in the future
- LinXitoW 9mo agoWe already had that happen. When GPT 5 was released, it was much less sycophantic. All the sad people with AI girl/boyfriends threw a giant fit because OpenAI "murdered" the "soul" of their "partner". That's why 4o is still available as a legacy model.
- duskdozer 9mo agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatbot_psychosis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatbot_psychosis
- jckahn 9mo agoAlternatively, just use a local model with zero restrictions.
- master_crab 9mo agoThis requires hardware in the tens of thousands of dollars (if we want the tokens spit out at a reasonable pace). Maybe in 3-5 years this will work on consumer hardware at speed, but not in the immediate term.
- vntok 9mo ago$2000 will get you 30~50 tokens/s on perfectly usable quantization levels (Q4-Q5), taken from any one among the top 5 best open weights MoE models. That's not half bad and will only get better!
- master_crab 9mo agoIf you are running lightweight models like deepseek 32B. But anything more and it’ll drop. Also, costs have risen a lot in the last month for RAM and AI adjacent hardware. It’s definitely not 2k for the rig needed for 50 tokens a second
- int_19h 9mo agoThat doesn't sound realistic to me. What is your breakdown on the hardware and the "top 5 best models" for this calculation?
- vntok 9mo agoLook up AMD's Strix Halo mini-PC such as GMKtec's EVO-X2. I got the one with 128GB of unified RAM (~100GB VRAM) last year for 1900€ excl. VAT; it runs like a beast especially for SOTA/near-SOTA MoE models.
- threeducks 9mo agoCould you explain how? I can't seem to figure it out. DeepSeek-V3.2-Exp has 37B active parameters, GLM-4.7 and Kimi K2 have 32B active parameters. Lets say we are dealing with Q4_K_S quantization for roughly half the size, we still need to move 16 GB 30 times per second, which requires a memory bandwidth of 480 GB/s, or maybe half that if speculative decoding works really well. Anything GPU-based won't work for that speed, because PCIe 5 provides only 64 GB/s and $2000 can not afford enough VRAM (~256GB) for a full model. That leaves CPU-based systems with high memory bandwidth. DDR5 would work (somewhere around 300 GB/s with 8x 4800MHz modules), but that would cost about twice as much for just the RAM alone, disregarding the rest of the system. Can you get enough memory bandwidth out of DDR4 somehow?
- lenkite 9mo agoSeriously, they have got their HOOKS into these Vibe Coders and AI Artists who will pony up $1000/month for their fix.
- bonesss 9mo agoA little hypothesis: a lot of .Net and Java stuff is mainlined from a giant mega corp straight to developers through a curated certification, MVP, blogging, and conference circuit apparatus designed to create unquestioned corporate friendly, highly profitable, dogma. You say ‘website’ and from the letter ‘b’ they’re having a Pavlovian response (“Azure hosted SharePoint, data lake, MSSQL, user directory, analytics, PowerBI, and…”). Microsoft’s dedication to infusing OpenAI tech into everything seems like a play to cut even those tepid brains out of the loop and capture the vehicles of planning and production. Training your workforce to be dependent on third-party thinking, planning, and advice is an interesting strategy.
- fragmede 9mo agoJust you wait until the powers that be take cars away from us! What absolute FOOLS you all are to shape your lives around something that could be taken away from us at any time! How are you going to get to work when gas stations magically disappear off the face of the planet? I ride a horse to work, and y'all are idiots for developing a dependency on cars. Next thing you're gonna tell me is we're going to go to war for oil to protect your way of life. Come on!
- stephenr 9mo agoThe reliance on SaaS LLMs is more akin to comparing owning a horse vs using a car on a monthly subscription plan.
- llmslave2 9mo agoCan't believe this car bubble has lasted so long. It's gonna pop any decade now!
- LinXitoW 9mo agoI mean, they're taking away parts of cars at the moment. You gotta pay monthly to unlock features your car already has.
- stephenr 9mo agoJust like the comment you replied to this is an argument against subscription model "thing" as a service business models, not against cars.
- prathamtharwani 9mo agoThis is a poor analogy. Cars (mostly) don't require a subscription.
- duskdozer 9mo agoDefinitely. Right now I can access and use them for free without significant annoyance. I'm a canary for enshittification; I'm curious what it's going to look like.
- SchemaLoad 9mo agoThe middle step is asking an LLM how it's done and making the change yourself. You skip the web junk and learn how it's done for next time.
- duggan 9mo agoYep, that’s not a bad approach, either. I did that a lot initially, it’s really only with the advent of Claude Code integrated with VS Code that I’m learning more like I would learn from a code review. It also depends on the project. Work code gets a lot more scrutiny than side projects, for example.
- stephenr 9mo agoOr, given that OP is presumably a developer who just doesn't focus fully on front end code they could skip straight to checking MDN for "center div" and get a How To article (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/How_to/Layout_cookbook/Center_an_element https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/How_to/Layo...) as the first result without relying on spicy autocomplete. Given how often people acknowledge that ai slop needs to be verified, it seems like a shitty way to achieve something like this vs just checking it yourself with well known good reference material.
- duggan 9mo agoLLMs work very well for a variety of software tasks — we have lots of experience around the industry now. If you haven’t been convinced by pure argument in 2026 then you probably won’t be. But the great thing is you don’t have to take anyone’s word for it. This isn’t crypto, where everyone using it has a stake in its success. You can just try it, or not.
- stephenr 9mo agoThat's a lot of words to say "trust me bruh" which is kind of poetic given that's the entire model (no pun intended) that LLMs work on.
- duggan 9mo agoHardly. Just pointing out that water is wet, from my perspective. But there is an interesting looking-glass effect at play, where the truth seems obvious and opposite on either side.
- Izkata 9mo ago> Search “centre a div” in Google Aaand done. Very first result was a blog post showing all the different ways to do it, old and new, without any preamble.
- duskdozer 9mo agoHalf the reason search engines are so miserable to use anymore is that they've been laden down with so much low quality LLM-generated content.
- freedomben 9mo agoIf only it were that easy. I got really good at centering and aligning stuff, but only when the application is constructed in the way I expect. This is usually not a problem as I'm usually working on something I built myself, but if I need to make a tweak to something I didn't build, I frequently find myself frustrated and irritated, especially when there is some higher or lower level that is overriding the setting I just added. As a bonus, I pay attention to what the AI did and its results, and I have actually learned quite a bit about how to do this myself even without AI assistance
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