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Russia has been theoretically cut off from advanced machinery for years, the west just started selling stuff to central asian countries who resell it to Russia

by riffraff 10mo ago

Russia has been theoretically cut off from advanced machinery for years, the west just started selling stuff to central asian countries who resell it to Russia and we all behave as if it's normal.

TitaRusell 10mo ago
It is normal because this has happened with every sanction. Russia is now forced to pay smugglers marked up prices for their stuff. The whole thing has been a war of attrition from day one. What Putin can't buy is soldiers. Every day another 1000 casualties.
- elektor 10mo ago
  Putin can and has bought soldiers (Wagner Group and North Koreans).
  - John23832 10mo ago
    And apparently Kenyans. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-12-23/kenyans-lured-to-russia-for-jobs-wind-up-fighting-in-ukraine https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-12-23/kenyans-l...
    - nradov 10mo ago
      And apparently Indians. Unfortunately the worldwide supply of poor and desperate young men is virtually infinite so Russia will be able to recruit more mercenaries as long as they have cash from fossil fuel exports. https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20251111-deceived-and-deployed-russia-recruits-indians-as-cannon-fodder-on-the-ukrainian-front https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20251111-deceived-and-dep...
_DeadFred_ 10mo ago
Huh? Haas 100% supports Russia and does whatever they can to get them stuff. The owner personally is pro-Russia. F Haas, and f' Formula1 with the Haas racing team.
- nradov 10mo ago
  Haas Automation claims this is incorrect. I don't know what the truth is here but there seem to be two sides to the story. https://www.haasf1team.com/news/team-statement https://www.haasf1team.com/news/team-statement
  - _DeadFred_ 10mo ago
    The Department of the Treasury thinks they violated sanctions and they were required to pay over a million dollars in fines. I'm not sure how you make 'two side to the story' out of that? https://ofac.treasury.gov/media/933956/download?inline https://ofac.treasury.gov/media/933956/download?inline
palmotea 10mo ago
> Russia has been theoretically cut off from advanced machinery for years, the west just started selling stuff to central asian countries who resell it to Russia and we all behave as if it's normal. China makes advanced machinery, and Russia also buys from them.
SR2Z 10mo ago
The truth is that Russia is suffering because of this, but they've been able to maintain a semblance of normality by building some parts themselves and obtaining the rest from China. Their fleet of Boeing and Airbus jetliners is slowly falling apart. They're extracting chips from washing machines to put in missiles. They're even sending soldiers to the front lines in flimsy electric golf carts. The sanctions are not working as well as the US hoped but they are working.

Russia has been theoretically cut off from advanced machinery for years, the west just started selling stuff to central asian countries who resell it to Russia and we all behave as if it's normal.

TitaRusell 10mo ago

It is normal because this has happened with every sanction. Russia is now forced to pay smugglers marked up prices for their stuff. The whole thing has been a war of attrition from day one. What Putin can't buy is soldiers. Every day another 1000 casualties.

elektor 10mo ago
Putin can and has bought soldiers (Wagner Group and North Koreans).
- John23832 10mo ago
  And apparently Kenyans. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-12-23/kenyans-lured-to-russia-for-jobs-wind-up-fighting-in-ukraine https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-12-23/kenyans-l...
  - nradov 10mo ago
    And apparently Indians. Unfortunately the worldwide supply of poor and desperate young men is virtually infinite so Russia will be able to recruit more mercenaries as long as they have cash from fossil fuel exports. https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20251111-deceived-and-deployed-russia-recruits-indians-as-cannon-fodder-on-the-ukrainian-front https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20251111-deceived-and-dep...

_DeadFred_ 10mo ago

Huh? Haas 100% supports Russia and does whatever they can to get them stuff. The owner personally is pro-Russia. F Haas, and f' Formula1 with the Haas racing team.

nradov 10mo ago
Haas Automation claims this is incorrect. I don't know what the truth is here but there seem to be two sides to the story. https://www.haasf1team.com/news/team-statement https://www.haasf1team.com/news/team-statement
- _DeadFred_ 10mo ago
  The Department of the Treasury thinks they violated sanctions and they were required to pay over a million dollars in fines. I'm not sure how you make 'two side to the story' out of that? https://ofac.treasury.gov/media/933956/download?inline https://ofac.treasury.gov/media/933956/download?inline

palmotea 10mo ago

> Russia has been theoretically cut off from advanced machinery for years, the west just started selling stuff to central asian countries who resell it to Russia and we all behave as if it's normal. China makes advanced machinery, and Russia also buys from them.

SR2Z 10mo ago

The truth is that Russia is suffering because of this, but they've been able to maintain a semblance of normality by building some parts themselves and obtaining the rest from China. Their fleet of Boeing and Airbus jetliners is slowly falling apart. They're extracting chips from washing machines to put in missiles. They're even sending soldiers to the front lines in flimsy electric golf carts. The sanctions are not working as well as the US hoped but they are working.