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Oil that was being given to Cuba, Iran, Russia, China...

by OCASMv2 9mo ago

SanjayMehta 9mo ago
It's their oil to give.
- hcurtiss 9mo ago
  Who is “they”? Maduro is not the elected leader of Venezuela.
  - arunabha 9mo ago
    How did you come to that conclusion?
    - SanjayMehta 9mo ago
      Western logic.
    - hcurtiss 9mo ago
      Literally nobody believes he won the last election. Biden said this repeatedly.
  - SanjayMehta 9mo ago
    Neither is your Trump the elected leader of Venezuela.
culi 9mo ago
By "given" you mean sold and by "Cuba, Iran, Russia, China..." you mean the only countries that aren't gonna follow the US' absurd sanctions that have led to so much suffering inside of Venezuela https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/05775132.2019.1638094 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/05775132.2019.16... > This article analyzes the consequences of the economic sanctions imposed on Venezuela by the U.S. government since August of 2017. The authors find that most of the impact of these sanctions has not been on the government but on the civilian population. The sanctions reduced the public’s caloric intake, increased disease and mortality (for both adults and infants), and displaced millions of Venezuelans who fled the country as a result of the worsening economic depression and hyperinflation. They made it nearly impossible to stabilize Venezuela’s economic crisis. These impacts disproportionately harmed the poorest and most vulnerable Venezuelans.
- 0xDEAFBEAD 9mo ago
  From what I gather, most of the food insecurity in Venezuela arose pre-2017 back when Obama was doing narrowly targeted sanctions on key individuals. You can see undernourishment rockets upward after Maduro takes power in 2013: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/prevalence-of-undernourishment?tab=chart&country=~VEN https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/prevalence-of-undernouris... Nothing Trump has done to Venezuela was justified or sensible. I just want to clarify that the nation's dysfunction does not seem to be primarily due US activity. (Maybe if we wait a little bit, it will be!)

Oil that was being given to Cuba, Iran, Russia, China...

by OCASMv2 9mo ago

Oil that was being given to Cuba, Iran, Russia, China...

SanjayMehta 9mo ago

It's their oil to give.

hcurtiss 9mo ago
Who is “they”? Maduro is not the elected leader of Venezuela.
- arunabha 9mo ago
  How did you come to that conclusion?
  - SanjayMehta 9mo ago
    Western logic.
  - hcurtiss 9mo ago
    Literally nobody believes he won the last election. Biden said this repeatedly.
- SanjayMehta 9mo ago
  Neither is your Trump the elected leader of Venezuela.

culi 9mo ago

By "given" you mean sold and by "Cuba, Iran, Russia, China..." you mean the only countries that aren't gonna follow the US' absurd sanctions that have led to so much suffering inside of Venezuela https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/05775132.2019.1638094 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/05775132.2019.16... > This article analyzes the consequences of the economic sanctions imposed on Venezuela by the U.S. government since August of 2017. The authors find that most of the impact of these sanctions has not been on the government but on the civilian population. The sanctions reduced the public’s caloric intake, increased disease and mortality (for both adults and infants), and displaced millions of Venezuelans who fled the country as a result of the worsening economic depression and hyperinflation. They made it nearly impossible to stabilize Venezuela’s economic crisis. These impacts disproportionately harmed the poorest and most vulnerable Venezuelans.

0xDEAFBEAD 9mo ago
From what I gather, most of the food insecurity in Venezuela arose pre-2017 back when Obama was doing narrowly targeted sanctions on key individuals. You can see undernourishment rockets upward after Maduro takes power in 2013: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/prevalence-of-undernourishment?tab=chart&country=~VEN https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/prevalence-of-undernouris... Nothing Trump has done to Venezuela was justified or sensible. I just want to clarify that the nation's dysfunction does not seem to be primarily due US activity. (Maybe if we wait a little bit, it will be!)