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This is the Ron Paul position and its a solid one. The non-intervention principle applies if you are not actively suffering intervention. The flaw however, is
by IG_Semmelweiss 9mo ago
This is the Ron Paul position and its a solid one.
The non-intervention principle applies if you are not actively suffering intervention.
The flaw however, is that applying non-intervention in this instance, is choosing to ignore the real, direct hurt currently endured by non-actors (LATAM + US citizens) from the policies of Maduro.
I do concede that whatever follows Maduro, may be worse.
If I'm getting poked by a neighbor for years and i finally punch back, punching is a valid response. If the neighbor then comes back later and shoots me with a gun, it doesn't mean that my self-defense act was invalid.
- jacquesm 9mo agoThat way lies madness.
- lostlogin 9mo agoIf anyone else is like me and unfamiliar with Ron Paul’s views, they are listed in his wiki. He sounds insufferable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul
- Teever 9mo agoIt isn't necessarily just a non-interventionist stance. Someone could be taking this position in this situation because they're highly skeptical that the Americans involved in this have the ability or desire to proceed in a way that will result in a minimum of casualities or in a way that will bring about real democractic change to the region. People want an Eisenhower doing these kinds of things, not whoever is doing currently doing it.
- CamperBob2 9mo agoAnd look what happened when Eisenhower did it in Iran.
- throwaway0123_5 9mo ago> Someone could be taking this position in this situation because they're highly skeptical that the Americans involved in this have the ability or desire to proceed in a way that will result in a minimum of casualities or in a way that will bring about real democractic change to the region. > People want an Eisenhower doing these kinds of things Why would people who don't want Trump doing it want an Eisenhower doing it? He helped overthrow democratically elected Árbenz in Guatemala with even weaker justifications than Trump overthrowing Maduro (Maduro at least seems to lack popular support and probably cheated in elections). Eisenhower: Overthrow of Árbenz to protect fruit company profits > series of military dictators > 30+ years of civil war where the US-backed government committed a genocide against Maya people
- 34679 9mo agoI've met Ron Paul. You, sir, are no Ron Paul.
- drumhead 9mo agoInvading and kidnapping the leader of a sovreign nation sounds rather illegal to me.
- adventured 9mo agoThere's no such thing as a sovereign dictatorship, that's a contradiction in terms.
- p10jkle 9mo agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign > The roles of a sovereign vary from monarch, ruler or head of state to head of municipal government or head of a chivalric order. As a result, the word sovereignty has more recently also come to mean independence or autonomy.
- tbrownaw 9mo agoIs it really illegal is nobody has the power to apply that designation?
- jacquesm 9mo agoAbsolutely. I declare it so.