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Well they just captured Maduro and flew him out of the country, so yes the regime quite literally did just fall minutes after you created your throwaway account

Well they just captured Maduro and flew him out of the country, so yes the regime quite literally did just fall minutes after you created your throwaway account to post this.

energy123 9mo ago
Pay attention to who is generating the wrong predictions, and what their other opinions are on tangential questions.
- ogogmad 9mo ago
  It's a game of probabilities. Even if it does turn out fine, similar things in recent history have turned out very poorly*. But to be honest, I hate Maduro anyway, so I'd be happy for this to turn out well. * - Claims 2 years ago about the removal of Hamas; assassinations of militia leaders leading to peace
  - energy123 9mo ago
    > assassinations of militia leaders leading to peace The purpose of the assassinations is security, not peace. Peace is a bilateral process and it does confer security, but if it's not on the table then you can't force the issue unilaterally.
    - deleted 9mo ago
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lukan 9mo ago
Yes. And some russian sources seem very understanding of the situation. I strongly believe Trump made a Deal with Putin. South america belongs to him. Putin can have europe. Otherwise there would have been american aircraft shot down with russian tech. Or really any kind of support except empty words.
- hnarn 9mo ago
  > Otherwise there would have been american aircraft shot down with russian tech Yes, because as we all know Russian military technology is completely on par with that of the United States.
  - lukan 9mo ago
    What technology prevents a american helicopter from being shot down by a russian anti aircraft missile? The open question is rather, if the S-500 system can beat the F35 stealth capabilities (nobody know that as far as I know as it was never tried). Not that russians systems are useless against ordinary planes and helicopters.
    - hnarn 9mo ago
      How do you think operations like these are executed? One helicopter just enters Venezuelan air space and hopes for the best?
      - lukan 9mo ago
        I believe there were many deals. With the russians to not interfer and send capable anti aircraft systems in the last months. And I suspect there were deals with parts of the venezuelan military as well. The weak reaction indicates as much. And everything else potentially dangerous, active radar and anti air systems were destroyed in the first wave of attacks. Possible with the help of special forces.
    - thunderbird120 9mo ago
      You prevent enemy air defenses from shooting down your aircraft by blowing them up as part of SEAD/DEAD missions, which is exactly what the US did.
  - braincat31415 9mo ago
    NYT says Russian AD in Venezuela wasn't even hooked to radar, with much of it kept in storage. Indian AD (S-300 or S-400) performed very well during the recent conflict with Pakistan.
softwaredoug 9mo ago
The regime isn’t the President in this case. It’s the ruling party and its institutions. The power stays in Maduros party and just goes To the VP. It’s anyone’s guess what happens next - but nothing changing is a relatively easy bet.

Well they just captured Maduro and flew him out of the country, so yes the regime quite literally did just fall minutes after you created your throwaway account to post this.

energy123 9mo ago

Pay attention to who is generating the wrong predictions, and what their other opinions are on tangential questions.

ogogmad 9mo ago
It's a game of probabilities. Even if it does turn out fine, similar things in recent history have turned out very poorly*. But to be honest, I hate Maduro anyway, so I'd be happy for this to turn out well. * - Claims 2 years ago about the removal of Hamas; assassinations of militia leaders leading to peace
- energy123 9mo ago
  > assassinations of militia leaders leading to peace The purpose of the assassinations is security, not peace. Peace is a bilateral process and it does confer security, but if it's not on the table then you can't force the issue unilaterally.
  - deleted 9mo ago
    [deleted]

lukan 9mo ago

Yes. And some russian sources seem very understanding of the situation. I strongly believe Trump made a Deal with Putin. South america belongs to him. Putin can have europe. Otherwise there would have been american aircraft shot down with russian tech. Or really any kind of support except empty words.

hnarn 9mo ago
> Otherwise there would have been american aircraft shot down with russian tech Yes, because as we all know Russian military technology is completely on par with that of the United States.
- lukan 9mo ago
  What technology prevents a american helicopter from being shot down by a russian anti aircraft missile? The open question is rather, if the S-500 system can beat the F35 stealth capabilities (nobody know that as far as I know as it was never tried). Not that russians systems are useless against ordinary planes and helicopters.
  - hnarn 9mo ago
    How do you think operations like these are executed? One helicopter just enters Venezuelan air space and hopes for the best?
    - lukan 9mo ago
      I believe there were many deals. With the russians to not interfer and send capable anti aircraft systems in the last months. And I suspect there were deals with parts of the venezuelan military as well. The weak reaction indicates as much. And everything else potentially dangerous, active radar and anti air systems were destroyed in the first wave of attacks. Possible with the help of special forces.
  - thunderbird120 9mo ago
    You prevent enemy air defenses from shooting down your aircraft by blowing them up as part of SEAD/DEAD missions, which is exactly what the US did.
- braincat31415 9mo ago
  NYT says Russian AD in Venezuela wasn't even hooked to radar, with much of it kept in storage. Indian AD (S-300 or S-400) performed very well during the recent conflict with Pakistan.

softwaredoug 9mo ago

The regime isn’t the President in this case. It’s the ruling party and its institutions. The power stays in Maduros party and just goes To the VP. It’s anyone’s guess what happens next - but nothing changing is a relatively easy bet.