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10 years ago this wouldn’t have been a big deal but don’t think the US in its current form should be given access

by Havoc 10mo ago

hulitu 10mo ago
> 10 years ago this wouldn’t have been a big deal Famous last words
- DaSHacka 10mo ago
  Multiple countries have already been sharing this information between eachother and the U.S. to some capacity for some time now and hardly anyone raises a stink about it [0] except us old-man-yells-at-cloud folk. I think GP is right that if not for Trump, no one would care. Like the majority of the U.S.'s over-reaching policies that have largely only come under scrutiny in recent times (at least, amongst this audience). [0] https://www.biometricupdate.com/202406/five-eyes-biometric-data-sharing-increases-by-over-100x-with-little-transparency https://www.biometricupdate.com/202406/five-eyes-biometric-d...
- jandrewrogers 10mo ago
  That ship sailed for the most part. This data is already commonly shared between countries.
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Hizonner 10mo ago
10 years ago this would have been a big deal, because the US (or any country) can always change "forms". Actually that's why you shouldn't create databases like that to begin with.
LightBug1 10mo ago
Mate, 10 years ago I would have raged about this ... and I'm ready to rage now.
DANmode 10mo ago
> 10 years ago this wouldn’t have been a big deal 2015 is later than 2013, which means you were all sorts of late, then.
ronsor 10mo ago
I like how your take-away is "the US is untrustworthy now" instead of a more general "tracking databases will always be abused eventually."
- ben_w 10mo ago
  "One of the current big supporters of freedom may hate and oppose your freedom during your lifetime" has always been a very hard sell. Show them examples of a free place becoming unfree? "Oh, we're different, that can't happen here".

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10 years ago this wouldn’t have been a big deal but don’t think the US in its current form should be given access

by Havoc 10mo ago

10 years ago this wouldn’t have been a big deal but don’t think the US in its current form should be given access

hulitu 10mo ago
> 10 years ago this wouldn’t have been a big deal Famous last words
- DaSHacka 10mo ago
  Multiple countries have already been sharing this information between eachother and the U.S. to some capacity for some time now and hardly anyone raises a stink about it [0] except us old-man-yells-at-cloud folk. I think GP is right that if not for Trump, no one would care. Like the majority of the U.S.'s over-reaching policies that have largely only come under scrutiny in recent times (at least, amongst this audience). [0] https://www.biometricupdate.com/202406/five-eyes-biometric-data-sharing-increases-by-over-100x-with-little-transparency https://www.biometricupdate.com/202406/five-eyes-biometric-d...
- jandrewrogers 10mo ago
  That ship sailed for the most part. This data is already commonly shared between countries.
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Hizonner 10mo ago
10 years ago this would have been a big deal, because the US (or any country) can always change "forms". Actually that's why you shouldn't create databases like that to begin with.
LightBug1 10mo ago
Mate, 10 years ago I would have raged about this ... and I'm ready to rage now.
DANmode 10mo ago
> 10 years ago this wouldn’t have been a big deal 2015 is later than 2013, which means you were all sorts of late, then.
ronsor 10mo ago
I like how your take-away is "the US is untrustworthy now" instead of a more general "tracking databases will always be abused eventually."
- ben_w 10mo ago
  "One of the current big supporters of freedom may hate and oppose your freedom during your lifetime" has always been a very hard sell. Show them examples of a free place becoming unfree? "Oh, we're different, that can't happen here".