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Russia started convoying some of those vessels, especially with more advanced operation bases than cable cuts [1]. They won't be able to seize those without op
by deepsun 10mo ago
Russia started convoying some of those vessels, especially with more advanced operation bases than cable cuts [1].
They won't be able to seize those without opening fire.
https://ioplus.nl/en/posts/how-seven-students-unmasked-russias-drone-motherships https://ioplus.nl/en/posts/how-seven-students-unmasked-russi...
- alecthomas 10mo agoThat is...disturbing.
- Sabinus 10mo agoThat's fine. Let Russia escort ships that then break cables. It'll make it more obvious it's deliberate, and provide a reason for blockade and confrontation.
- vasco 10mo agoThere's literal war ongoing already, no extra excuse is needed, only political will.
- rtkwe 10mo agoThere's a reason countries like to fight proxy wars over real wars, they cost money not (their own) lives.
- miohtama 10mo agoAnd then NATO will obliterate Russia's Baltic fleet before the sun rises.
- dmitrygr 10mo agoA hot NATO-Russia engagement ends with a few sunrises at 3am all over Europe, USA, and Russia. Not a thing to joke about or cheer.
- actionfromafar 10mo agoJust bend over for Putins liberators then. There’s nothing that can be done. Let them take what they want? No thanks.
- andrepd 10mo agoBy definition anything is preferable to global nuclear holocaust, so I'm not sure where you want to go with your argument.
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- actionfromafar 10mo agoI am glad you didn’t run the Cold War. Edit: by that I mean, with that attitude we would just have never developed nukes, or given the nukes to the Russians preemptively, because who wants nuclear war, right? Anything is better than that.
- Sabinus 10mo agoCan I have your house if I threaten to nuke you? Assume I have a nuke. How about your wife? If the nuke threat isn't reasonable and proportional then you must ignore it. Nukes are for existential risks. Which is 1) enemy nukes, and 2) invasion of the capital. Anything else is bluster and coercion.
- mmooss 10mo agoIf your plan is one that ends with the end of the world and billions dead, it's a bad plan. Attacking strawpersons doesn't make it better. You need a better plan.
- JumpCrisscross 10mo ago> one that ends with the end of the world and billions dead The point is it doesn’t. Ukraine is on its way to wiping out Russia’s Black Sea Fleet. It’s pure posturing to pretend Moscow is stupid enough to end its existence over a naval battle, much less simply credible threats of one.
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