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I'm surprised Apple haven't thrown in the towel and opened things up worldwide yet. It's only a matter of time until it becomes too confusing and problematic to
by GaryBluto 10mo ago
I'm surprised Apple haven't thrown in the towel and opened things up worldwide yet. It's only a matter of time until it becomes too confusing and problematic to try and run the same system relatively openly in one country and walled in another.
- apples_oranges 10mo agoFeatureToggles.swift
- madeofpalk 10mo agoeligibilityd https://theapplewiki.com/wiki/Eligibility https://theapplewiki.com/wiki/Eligibility
- travisgriggs 10mo agoThis. It’s computation. Computation doesn’t really “get” geopolitical borders. I’m so sick of the ever increasing variances between the different “store” offerings in different regions of the world. Seems like every time I push an update (every month or so), I have to answer updated questions and declarations, often relative to different parts of the world.
- gjsman-1000 10mo agoThis is a poorly thought through argument, as there is nothing that “gets” geopolitical borders.
- overfeed 10mo ago> It's only a matter of time until it becomes too confusing and problematic to try and run the same system relatively openly in one country and walled in another They will continue to do so for as long as it remains profitable. Navigating the complexities of multiple jurisdictions is the bread and butter of MNCs - it's the price of admission into the multinational club. Apple is guaranteed to have lawyers, admins, and executives already on the payroll for this task.
- valleyer 10mo agoLawyers, admins, and executives, sure. But what about the complexity on the engineers who now have to maintain an exploding matrix of modes? I can definitely see that becoming burdensome.
- SheinhardtWigCo 10mo ago$500k+ TC makes many burdens worth shouldering
- davnicwil 10mo agomuch has been written about the deteriorating quality of iOS. There's bluntly not strong external evidence that software quality is a driving priority at Apple in recent years, so it most probably follows that concerns about maintainability aren't either.
- theplatman 10mo agoEngineers say they want to work on hard problems then complain that they can’t solve something because it’s too complex
- abacadaba 10mo agosounds like a problem for claude to worry about
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- hypeatei 10mo agoI've always thought the same. Obviously there isn't much of a technical hurdle since they have the engineering talent. But, keeping track of all these cross-region rules and training your staff+customers on it has to be quite costly in multiple respects (time, energy, mental models, etc.) My personal opinion is that keeping the browser engine locked down isn't much of a profit generator, unlike maintaining full reign over the app store would be.
- bloppe 10mo agoHobbling browser engines is a key pillar of app store control. Decent PWA support would be a massive blow to Apple's bottom line.
- gjsman-1000 10mo agoThis is the conspiratorial version. The more likely explanation is that when every app can bundle their own browser engine, we will not see a competition explosion. Instead, Electron apps will come to mobile, with every app shipping its own browser stack. You can’t tell me Gecko, which has already failed on desktop, will suddenly be popular on mobile. You can easily tell me every app shipping their own Chromium would be very popular with developers.
- bloppe 10mo agoa browser is essentially an app store with no 30% cut for Apple. If you can ship a browser, you don't need to pay the Apple tax
- gjsman-1000 10mo agoHas PWA become popular on unencumbered platforms like Android or Windows? No. Even if unencumbered on iOS, it will still fail, because PWA is an intrinsically confusing technology. The pitch to non-technical users is terrible. Just like passkeys, which has also been terrible.
- WD-42 10mo agoGood. The sooner I can run Firefox with the legit uBlock origin the better.
- steelbrain 10mo agoWhile its not Firefox, you can run uBlock origin with the Orion browser from the Kagi people.
- WD-42 10mo agoThat’s what I’m currently doing - it’s barely functional. I’m sure it’ll get there eventually but it misses a ton of stuff the desktop version blocks.
- browningstreet 10mo agoI'm running 1Blocker on iOS Safari, what am I not getting?
- nvr219 10mo agoI'm using wipr and it's great. using vinegar/baking soda for video adblocks.
- concinds 10mo agoProper, full blocking of ads and trackers. Just because you can't see most of them doesn't mean the network requests aren't getting through. And you're not getting a free and open-source extension. And you're not getting 3 extra bucks a month in your wallet, because those grifters made you pay for some pixels despite not contributing to the adblock lists their "business" depends on.
- madeofpalk 10mo agowhat do you mean? 1Blocker blocks network requests. It might not block everything to the degree of uBlock Origin, but it does block network requests.
- MBCook 10mo agoI don’t think you understand Apple‘s stubbornness. They DO NOT like being told what to do. They seem to have gotten a long way better with Japan in this process than the EU, but they’re still not happy about it. So they’re absolutely not gonna just roll over for everyone.
- mdhb 10mo agoApple is intentionally trying to make it frustrating in hopes that people will complain to relevant voices that “there’s too much regulation and you should just let Apple do its thing” which is something they've been pushing a lot in Europe the past few years for example