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btw, if you use https://kagi.com/ https://kagi.com/ , they have a workflow for this: if you are on a site, and they popup a modal asking for you to sign up for
by analogpixel 10mo ago
btw, if you use https://kagi.com/ https://kagi.com/ , they have a workflow for this: if you are on a site, and they popup a modal asking for you to sign up for something, you click back to the kagi.com search results, click the shield icon, and then click block. Now you'll never see that site show up again in your search results.
I've found those sites that want you to sign up for stuff usually have poor content to begin with, so this is just helping you curate out all the bad content out there.
- isodev 10mo ago[flagged]
- jjtheblunt 10mo agowhy would you say that?
- deleted 10mo ago[deleted]
- DANmode 10mo agoSay more, or say less.
- neodymiumphish 10mo agoUh, what? Wanna explain why?
- reciprocity 10mo agoHow does one make a comment like this, I wonder, and not substantiate.
- wolvoleo 10mo agoI assume you mean because you have to be logged in in order to use kagi? They do have anonimised logins for this though: https://blog.kagi.com/kagi-privacy-pass https://blog.kagi.com/kagi-privacy-pass which is a pretty good mitigation IMO. As it's a paid service of course proving you paid is a must. And as for control, I can't agree there. Kagi offers more control than any other search engine through its lenses and the ability to influence the ranking of search results from specific sites. I don't use their service at the moment, I'm pretty ok with my self hosted SearXNG and I like being able to customise the look and feel there too. But Kagi is excellent as search engines go.
- cik 10mo agoAppreciate the SearXNG mention. Learned something new, thank you!
- prmoustache 10mo agoNote that if you are using the same instance of SearXNG every time and it is not shared with many others you haven't gained anything in term of privacy. You'd need to auto shut down and spin up new instances on others servers/ip/providers on regular short intervals to do so or use a constellation of hundreds of instanced served randomly from the same fqdn.
- wolvoleo 10mo agoTrue but I'm not doing it for privacy. I'm doing it for having a clean adfree experience, having multi-engine searches and having control over which engine and features it uses. And it also helps really well against search engine enshittification by raising search results higher when they're received from multiple engines so you have less of the clickbait crap that search engines promote these days. It has some amazing features where it can search much more specific sites if you search for things like books, movies etc instead of treating everything like a general search. And everything can be tailored and tweaked.
- thousand_nights 10mo agosadly sometimes it's e-commerce websites where you actually want to buy their product and they interrupt you three times with "sign up to our newsletter and get 5% off with the code" modals, like they're actively trying to frustrate me into not giving them my money
- kevin_thibedeau 10mo agoIt's infuriating when you click on the search box, start typing, and the modal pops up disrupting your attempt to give them money.
- ChrisMarshallNY 10mo agoBack in the ‘90s and early aughts, there was a well-known book called Web Pages That Suck. One of their biggest refrains, was “Stop interfering with your user, when they are giving you money.” They used to regularly hold up Amazon as the platonic ideal of an e-commerce site, but even Amazon has devolved into mis-click hell. Nowadays, I often click a button that takes me to some useless page, instead of the cart.
- conductr 10mo agoThey usually succeed with me. Or if I really plan on purchasing I sign up to get the discount only to immediately opt out, so what’s the point? We’ve been furnishing a new house and so getting usually ~15% off a high ticket purchase I’m already decided on buying just for giving them my email which I also already will be giving them when I purchase is a good enough deal that I’ll do it temporarily. So much so, I can only think about how is this a good ROI for them. That said, the sites that employ the “spin the wheel” approach to winning a discount are too much, I bounce.
- rustystump 10mo agoIt is an allusion of discount if they run those and opting out never works hr information is now stored on god knows how many servers. They do it though because it works. Spin to win too is a total fabrication but gambling works. Just because something works doesnt mean there shouldnt be regulations against it.
- TheUnhinged 10mo agoDuckDuckGo has that feature, too.
- dhosek 10mo agoThey have it hidden behind a … menu though which is unfortunate because it’s a great feature to have.
- tosapple 10mo agoThat is a decent feature. Edit: if it influences their search ranking it may be able to be gamed though.
- signal11 10mo agoMany people forget — Google once used to penalise sites with some abusive behaviours, so webmasters had a vested interest in having decent web pages if they wanted good rankings. Somewhere along the line (when Prabhakar Raghavan was running search maybe?) that seems to have changed. Part of it might be cookie popups (thanks EU*). Part of it might be giving networks using Google’s own ad networks a free pass. In any case, webmasters had no reason to stop abusive/dark UX any more. *This is not an anti-EU jab. It’s a jab at an inadequate technical measure. Given how many sites people visit, cookie consent popups do not provide informed consent, and further legitimise popups.
- redwall_hp 10mo agoPaywalls used to get you deranked, too. Serving different content to Googlebot than what a user would see was considered an attempt to game it, and the domain would be penalized.
- 93po 10mo agothe point of the EU law wasnt to get everyone to plaster banners saying they're selling or giving away your personal info, the point was to make websites stop doing it by shaming them with the banner if they chose to continue anti-privacy behaviors. the problem isnt the EU, it's the websites
- srdjanr 10mo agoWell if the solution doesn't work in real world, it is EU's problem
- mwarkentin 10mo agoSome have done it (repo includes links to main articles covering the process): https://github.com/getsentry/sentry-watchdog https://github.com/getsentry/sentry-watchdog Note: I work for sentry.
- ravikapoor101 10mo ago~Dont be evil~ During Sunday Pichai, google has become a S*t hole. He sucked up all goodwill