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It is incredibly user hostile. And it's not even free. This is an ecosystem you pay for. They're treating folks shelling out $200 for an OS as if they were cat

by areoform 10mo ago

It is incredibly user hostile. And it's not even free. This is an ecosystem you pay for. They're treating folks shelling out $200 for an OS as if they were cattle on the adtech train.

bigyabai 10mo ago
Here's hoping that Apple can correct-course from this path. Last time I daily-drove macOS (Sequoia) it was pushing adverts in my face with every native app I launched.
- areoform 10mo ago
  I spend 8 hours a day on Sequoia and I haven't seen any adverts in any native app?
  - bigyabai 10mo ago
    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251488227 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251488227 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250786208 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250786208 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254431520 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254431520 Having talked to Apple Support, there is no way to disable the pop-up permanently due to Apple's Promotional Policy.
  - threetonesun 10mo ago
    There are certainly ads for Apple services if you don't already use them (or in the case of Apple Music, sometimes even if you do use it because the app is pretty bad), and there are sponsored ads in the App Store now. I wouldn't say it's in any way equivalent to Windows 11, but it does feel like Apple is following a similar path as Microsoft, just with a little more Apple design on top.
- fooster 10mo ago
  Huh? I use macOS all day every day and I’ve never seen an ad.
  - p_ing 10mo ago
    iOS and macOS will nag you regarding iCloud if you don't sign up/in. Apple advertised... something, I forget what it was, via an Apple Wallet notification this past year (?). Might have been for the F1 movie when it was in theaters.
- robrain 10mo ago
  With respect - bull.
  - bigyabai 10mo ago
    With respect, every single search query in the App Store displays advertisements by-default, and you know that.
    - robrain 10mo ago
      You know you’re moving the goalposts, don’t you? I’ll grant you that the App Store and Music show ads. But that’s not what you claimed originally, is it?
- usefulcat 10mo ago
  What specific apps are showing ads?
  - LTL_FTC 10mo ago
    Well, if you buy a new device and don’t enroll in AppleCare, you have a little red notification in the settings. I have two notifications currently that I cannot get rid of until the 60 window expires. I would consider this an ad.
pdntspa 10mo ago
Who is actually shelling out $200 for Windows specifically? It's perceptually free if you bought it with your PC. And it's actually free if you took advantage of the free upgrade offer. I've picked up a few licenses off MacHeist for like $10
- olyjohn 10mo ago
  The cost is rolled into your PC when you buy it. Its not free. Your $10 licenses are not legal. Sorry. Those are sketchy grey market keys. Though Microsoft likely won't go after you for it, so I'm not sure it matters. You should have just saved the $10 and downloaded a cracked copy.
  - DANmode 10mo ago
    You’d rather have an unofficial ISO? Why?
  - butlike 10mo ago
    If they're authenticated when I install the OS, what makes them illegal?
  - u8080 10mo ago
    Cracked copy = trusting some shady 3rd party
  - Dylan16807 10mo ago
    I'm not going to switch to piracy to avoid some gray market sketchiness, as long as the keys don't seem to be stolen.
  - pdntspa 10mo ago
    Never had issues activating the Windows keys nor the Office keys I've bought from them. And I always get the installers straight from Microsoft.
- handsclean 10mo ago
  > perceptually free Bizarre phrase. If you think mandatory bundling is free stuff then your perception is not very good.

It is incredibly user hostile. And it's not even free. This is an ecosystem you pay for. They're treating folks shelling out $200 for an OS as if they were cattle on the adtech train.

bigyabai 10mo ago

Here's hoping that Apple can correct-course from this path. Last time I daily-drove macOS (Sequoia) it was pushing adverts in my face with every native app I launched.

areoform 10mo ago
I spend 8 hours a day on Sequoia and I haven't seen any adverts in any native app?
- bigyabai 10mo ago
  https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251488227 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251488227 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250786208 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250786208 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254431520 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254431520 Having talked to Apple Support, there is no way to disable the pop-up permanently due to Apple's Promotional Policy.
- threetonesun 10mo ago
  There are certainly ads for Apple services if you don't already use them (or in the case of Apple Music, sometimes even if you do use it because the app is pretty bad), and there are sponsored ads in the App Store now. I wouldn't say it's in any way equivalent to Windows 11, but it does feel like Apple is following a similar path as Microsoft, just with a little more Apple design on top.
fooster 10mo ago
Huh? I use macOS all day every day and I’ve never seen an ad.
- p_ing 10mo ago
  iOS and macOS will nag you regarding iCloud if you don't sign up/in. Apple advertised... something, I forget what it was, via an Apple Wallet notification this past year (?). Might have been for the F1 movie when it was in theaters.
robrain 10mo ago
With respect - bull.
- bigyabai 10mo ago
  With respect, every single search query in the App Store displays advertisements by-default, and you know that.
  - robrain 10mo ago
    You know you’re moving the goalposts, don’t you? I’ll grant you that the App Store and Music show ads. But that’s not what you claimed originally, is it?
usefulcat 10mo ago
What specific apps are showing ads?
- LTL_FTC 10mo ago
  Well, if you buy a new device and don’t enroll in AppleCare, you have a little red notification in the settings. I have two notifications currently that I cannot get rid of until the 60 window expires. I would consider this an ad.

pdntspa 10mo ago

Who is actually shelling out $200 for Windows specifically? It's perceptually free if you bought it with your PC. And it's actually free if you took advantage of the free upgrade offer. I've picked up a few licenses off MacHeist for like $10

olyjohn 10mo ago
The cost is rolled into your PC when you buy it. Its not free. Your $10 licenses are not legal. Sorry. Those are sketchy grey market keys. Though Microsoft likely won't go after you for it, so I'm not sure it matters. You should have just saved the $10 and downloaded a cracked copy.
- DANmode 10mo ago
  You’d rather have an unofficial ISO? Why?
- butlike 10mo ago
  If they're authenticated when I install the OS, what makes them illegal?
- u8080 10mo ago
  Cracked copy = trusting some shady 3rd party
- Dylan16807 10mo ago
  I'm not going to switch to piracy to avoid some gray market sketchiness, as long as the keys don't seem to be stolen.
- pdntspa 10mo ago
  Never had issues activating the Windows keys nor the Office keys I've bought from them. And I always get the installers straight from Microsoft.
handsclean 10mo ago
> perceptually free Bizarre phrase. If you think mandatory bundling is free stuff then your perception is not very good.