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So. Nvidia abandons the gaming market, Microsoft abandons Windows and Google abandons Search, all because AI is supposedly more important. At some point it sta
by xg15 10mo ago
So. Nvidia abandons the gaming market, Microsoft abandons Windows and Google abandons Search, all because AI is supposedly more important.
At some point it starts to feel like a drug for C-suites.
- wtcactus 10mo agoHum. Windows has been ridden with bugs forever. I don’t see how this is connected to Microsoft abandoning windows in favor of AI. Windows code base is just too heavy to maintain. They need to break compatibility with older products like MacOS often does, so that Windows can be manageable again… but that goes against Microsoft philosophy it seems.
- josefritzishere 10mo agoThat's not the whole story. The challenges associated with legacy app support have nothign to do with ads, telemetry, reCall and jamming AI into every crevice. Microsoft is doing both things wrong and 11 is a hot mess for that.
- realusername 10mo agoIt more or less worked fine until they fired all the QA staff and bundled Windows with adware.
- coldtea 10mo ago>Hum. Windows has been ridden with bugs forever Windows had a reasonable share of bug analogous to its huge breadth and backwards compatibility needs. Otherwise, it was very stable and mature. Now it's gotten way worse...
- lostmsu 10mo agoYes, but it happened before ChatGPT. Windows 11 was released in 2021, already with shitty taskbar, search, and start menu.
- coldtea 10mo agoYes, but those were bad by choice. Whereas the parent alluded to bugs just been piling gratuitously.
- array_key_first 10mo agoI mean, define now. Windows has been progressively getting more buggy for a long time, before windows 11 or even 10. Windows 11 is pretty bad but it's been bad. Since day 1 the taskbar crashes for me a few times a day, file explorer crashes, and random things have stupid amounts of lag.
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- orwin 10mo agoI only used Windows at work and for games in a VM, so take that with a grain of salt: Older Windows bugs seemed fair: mostly edge cases, weird UI interaction, or stuff that only came out under heavy workload (also, windows file system). This past few year, the bugs are incomprehensible. I understand non-professional versions are considered as Beta since Win10, but what it felt like is that Home version are actually alpha, and windows pro seems more and more like a beta.
- p_ing 10mo agoNT4 had many serious BSODs. SP6 was so problematic due to a critical bug in LSA that it was re-released as SP6a. Windows bugs have moved more and more into the 'edge case' territory. Not that major issues don't crop up for "everyone" today, but BSODs used to be much more common. Part of that was due to the architecture, thus drivers, but the other side of it was core Windows functionality that just had bugs.
- lostmsu 10mo agoKernel is almost perfect these days. Can't say the same about user environment. Explorer and shell are buggiest ever.
- p_ing 10mo agoExplorer is the shell ;) But Explorer has had it's fair share of issues. I have a 98SE machine to prove the stalls, lockups, lack of refreshing directories, etc...
- lostmsu 10mo agoNot anymore, not entirely. Start menu and taskbar are now in a separate thing I believe. Welcome to 20s!
- p_ing 10mo agoExplorer.exe is still the shell -- the shell is defined at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Shell, if you want to look (or replace it).
- MarsIronPI 10mo agoTo be fair to Nvidia, they're only selling the pickaxes in this gold craze. It's smart for them to focus on the market that pays the most. When the AI bubble pops, they'll still be in a great position and they'll be able to return to gaming.
- mikkupikku 10mo agoAre they only selling pickaxes? I thought they were also investing in prospecting firms, who then turn around and buy more pickaxes. Seems kind of dodgy, but also a lot riskier than just selling pickaxes.
- dist-epoch 10mo agoThey are training AI models. They are investing in AI companies (OpenAI).
- bigyabai 10mo ago> Nvidia abandons the gaming market Citation? I've been hearing this from Gamer's Nexus for decades, but Nvidia seems to be fine RAM shortage notwithstanding.
- xg15 10mo agoI was thinking about the revenue shift as described in articles like this one: https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/big-tech/nvidia-gaming-gpus-an-afterthought-as-ai-generates-mountains-of-cash-rtx-50-series-shortages-mentioned-not-explained https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/big-tech/nvidia-g... Arguably, Nvidia has a point, probably more than the other companies, because they really are at the heart of the current buildout gold rush. So it's more actual economics for them than the FOMO it feels like for the other companies.
- coldtea 10mo agoIt's about which market segment gets priority in the company. Doesn't mean they'll stop making gaming cards altogether
- bigyabai 10mo agoSure, that makes sense. I don't think anyone ever treated Nvidia like the "pure raster" competitor though. Sacrifices have been made for CUDA for 10+ years, when the Nintendo Switch shipped it was with automotive grade SOCs. Gamers have been chopped liver for decades, but they still get GPU releases and software products. Looking at the flip side, Apple, AMD and Intel all eschewed compute performance for raster and have nothing to show for it. No "DLSS killer" in sight, no CUDA alternative, nothing. It seems like the gaming revenue is a ball-and-chain holding back profitable applications.
- callc 10mo agoThe last 3 generations of nvidia gpus have been a big middle finger to PC gamers in terms of price and power usage Gone are the days of affordable graphics accelerators in the $300 to $500 range. Now it’s $1000 to $2000. 400 watts now instead of 100.
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- badc0ffee 10mo agoI'm not seeing the connection.
- kridsdale1 10mo agoIt’s racism.
- t-writescode 10mo agoWhat? How does that relate to the above?
- autoexec 10mo agoThe drug is the dream of replacing their serfs (you) with robots. They feel like what passes for AI is sooo close, and they're willing to destroy everything and anything to make their dream reality, but I think they're going to be disappointed. Until they face reality we're all going to increasingly suffer.
- tavavex 10mo agoNot even really "Until they face reality". I think "we're all going to increasingly suffer" suffices. Not to be too provocative, but I think that even if LLMs don't quite pan out for what they dream of using them for, there's still about a billion other things that can be tightened up to make your life more miserable and their lives more profitable. More ads, more abusive trickery, more 'attestation'/'safety'/'integrity', more subscription services, more discontinuations of old software and features that worked perfectly fine, more total oversight and tracking. It's the trajectory we've been on for a very long time, and there's no reason for it to change.
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- trinix912 10mo agoThe C-suites are there to please the shareholders more than the customers. The shareholders hear how much AI companies are supposedly making and believe money is being left on the table lest their co-owned companies invest in AI too. The C-suites then go after AI as none of them wants to be told they haven't done anything to profit off it.
- duxup 10mo agoMy youtube ads that I get are all fear about AI "You have to do this or you'll be out of a job!" and so on. It's madness.