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The timing of this seems rather suspect.

by josefritzishere 10mo ago

lostlogin 10mo ago
Please could you explain this?
- hashbig 10mo ago
  Israel and the US are planning a new war on Iran. Historically (in Iran and other places), we saw political and internal crises emerge/staged when the US is planning a regime change in that country.
  - throw310822 10mo ago
    > Israel and the US are planning a new war on Iran Source?
  - throwaway894345 10mo ago
    Iran has protests all the time, as do lots of other countries _including the US_ and France and others and they don't herald US-led regime change. But if you have evidence for your claim that the US and Israel are planning a war in Iran, that would be major international news.
    - f33d5173 10mo ago
      It is. I heard about it on the radio.
  - crazydoggers 10mo ago
    I’m sure it has nothing to do with the fact Iran is so mismanaged and suffering from severe drought they are talking about water rations or evacuations in Tehran.. or the plummeting of their currency [1] .. or the fact that the majority of the country doesn’t even support the current government [2] … no must be a conspiracy. </sarcasm> 1. https://www.meforum.org/mef-observer/irans-currency-collapse-accelerates-as-inflation-surges https://www.meforum.org/mef-observer/irans-currency-collapse... 2. https://www.iranintl.com/en/202302036145 https://www.iranintl.com/en/202302036145
    - shwaj 10mo ago
      Why not both? No need to be so disparaging.
      - crazydoggers 10mo ago
        We should be disparaging of fear mongering conspiracy theories that have no facts to back them up. Just like if you told me Democrats in the US are controlling hurricanes, or that 5G caused covid.
        shwaj 10mo ago
        Just like those? Those examples are highly improbable, whereas the CIA is almost certainly active in Iran right now (that’s their job!), even if there isn’t evidence that they are behind these particular protests.
        JumpCrisscross 10mo ago
        > whereas the CIA is almost certainly active in Iran right now (that’s their job!) This is true of every intelligence agency. Reflexively reaching for the CIA to explain all geopolitics is lazy conspiratorialism.
      - concinds 10mo ago
        People are disparaging of dumb conspiracism. This notion that any protest in a dictatorship is a CIA plot is bullshit. The whole “CIA color revolution” concept is bullshit meant to delegitimize and demoralize legitimate grassroots movements against shitty dictatorships. Even the Iranian leadership is publicly acknowledging their legitimacy shortfall and the economic catastrophe, and that’s saying something. If you don’t believe in protests within dictatorships then you don’t believe in democracy. As simple as that.
        krapp 10mo ago
        "A CIA plot" goes too far, true. But to believe the CIA isn't involved at all in fomenting revolution in a country whose current government is the result of the CIA having done so in the past, and which the US considers part of the "Axis of Evil," and which is an ally to a country the US is currently waging a war of aggression and plunder against (Venezuela) seems naive.
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  - sorokod 10mo ago
    On the reason spectrum of : - 50% inflation, tax hikes and currency devaluation [1] - Manufactured crisis - The presence of the 3i comet in our solar system where would Occam's razor cut? [1] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/12/26/irans-government-budget-reveals-tough-road-ahead-as-currency-hits-new-low https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/12/26/irans-government-b...
  - JumpCrisscross 10mo ago
    > Israel and the US are planning a new war on Iran Israel and America are sabre rattling with Iran. It's been happening for about as long as Iran has been calling for death to America and Israel.
    - lostlogin 10mo ago
      They have attacked Iran in recent times.
      - JumpCrisscross 10mo ago
        > They have attacked Iran in recent times Iran is an aspiring regional power. Its proxies spread across half a continent. It's involved in foreign meddling in like half a dozen civil and hybrid war fronts. That's the nature of the Middle East, the cradle of the oldest civilisations in literal history.

The timing of this seems rather suspect.

lostlogin 10mo ago

Please could you explain this?

hashbig 10mo ago
Israel and the US are planning a new war on Iran. Historically (in Iran and other places), we saw political and internal crises emerge/staged when the US is planning a regime change in that country.
- throw310822 10mo ago
  > Israel and the US are planning a new war on Iran Source?
- throwaway894345 10mo ago
  Iran has protests all the time, as do lots of other countries _including the US_ and France and others and they don't herald US-led regime change. But if you have evidence for your claim that the US and Israel are planning a war in Iran, that would be major international news.
  - f33d5173 10mo ago
    It is. I heard about it on the radio.
- crazydoggers 10mo ago
  I’m sure it has nothing to do with the fact Iran is so mismanaged and suffering from severe drought they are talking about water rations or evacuations in Tehran.. or the plummeting of their currency [1] .. or the fact that the majority of the country doesn’t even support the current government [2] … no must be a conspiracy. </sarcasm> 1. https://www.meforum.org/mef-observer/irans-currency-collapse-accelerates-as-inflation-surges https://www.meforum.org/mef-observer/irans-currency-collapse... 2. https://www.iranintl.com/en/202302036145 https://www.iranintl.com/en/202302036145
  - shwaj 10mo ago
    Why not both? No need to be so disparaging.
    - crazydoggers 10mo ago
      We should be disparaging of fear mongering conspiracy theories that have no facts to back them up. Just like if you told me Democrats in the US are controlling hurricanes, or that 5G caused covid.
      - shwaj 10mo ago
        Just like those? Those examples are highly improbable, whereas the CIA is almost certainly active in Iran right now (that’s their job!), even if there isn’t evidence that they are behind these particular protests.
        JumpCrisscross 10mo ago
        > whereas the CIA is almost certainly active in Iran right now (that’s their job!) This is true of every intelligence agency. Reflexively reaching for the CIA to explain all geopolitics is lazy conspiratorialism.
    - concinds 10mo ago
      People are disparaging of dumb conspiracism. This notion that any protest in a dictatorship is a CIA plot is bullshit. The whole “CIA color revolution” concept is bullshit meant to delegitimize and demoralize legitimate grassroots movements against shitty dictatorships. Even the Iranian leadership is publicly acknowledging their legitimacy shortfall and the economic catastrophe, and that’s saying something. If you don’t believe in protests within dictatorships then you don’t believe in democracy. As simple as that.
      - krapp 10mo ago
        "A CIA plot" goes too far, true. But to believe the CIA isn't involved at all in fomenting revolution in a country whose current government is the result of the CIA having done so in the past, and which the US considers part of the "Axis of Evil," and which is an ally to a country the US is currently waging a war of aggression and plunder against (Venezuela) seems naive.
- deleted 10mo ago
  [deleted]
- sorokod 10mo ago
  On the reason spectrum of : - 50% inflation, tax hikes and currency devaluation [1] - Manufactured crisis - The presence of the 3i comet in our solar system where would Occam's razor cut? [1] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/12/26/irans-government-budget-reveals-tough-road-ahead-as-currency-hits-new-low https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/12/26/irans-government-b...
- JumpCrisscross 10mo ago
  > Israel and the US are planning a new war on Iran Israel and America are sabre rattling with Iran. It's been happening for about as long as Iran has been calling for death to America and Israel.
  - lostlogin 10mo ago
    They have attacked Iran in recent times.
    - JumpCrisscross 10mo ago
      > They have attacked Iran in recent times Iran is an aspiring regional power. Its proxies spread across half a continent. It's involved in foreign meddling in like half a dozen civil and hybrid war fronts. That's the nature of the Middle East, the cradle of the oldest civilisations in literal history.