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Tangentially related, but some banking apps also implement their own in-app keyboard in their password fields, making password manager unusable and basically fo

Tangentially related, but some banking apps also implement their own in-app keyboard in their password fields, making password manager unusable and basically forcing me to use a easy to remember (to guess) password.

sdoering 9mo ago
On the same tangent. My former bank forced me to use a 6 - 8 digit password with only numbers allowed. Not sure if in the few years since I am not a customer anymore, they changed this policy, though.
- ivanjermakov 9mo ago
  Just begging for someones date of birth, lol.
tuetuopay 9mo ago
Yup, mine does this, even on the web. Oh god French banks do love their scrambled-digit-keyboards. And boy do they love 6 to 8 digits passwords. That you have to click on using your mouse. No password manager required! Their app also likes to prompt me periodically for the password instead of the phone's biometrics, which would be good, except it always happens in a public place like the subway, which is the last place I'd want to enter a 6 digit code to my bank account on a scrambled visual keyboard which slows down typing to a point it's trivial to write down (instead of letting muscle memory do its job). Also, it seems like those apps did not get the ATM memo of giving visual/audio feedback on a random delay to user input, to y'know, not letting glancers know what you actually type. AFAIK this trend of visual scrambled keyboard on the desktop started when keyloggers were rampant. They quickly adapted to screenshot the 20px around the mouse on click when on a bank website. The banks never adapted.
- Avamander 9mo ago
  That's incredibly primitive. It's about time some countries implemented proper digital IDs that would deprecate garbage approaches like these.
- benhurmarcel 9mo ago
  One of them has that “scrambled visual keyboard” for an 8-digit password, and at the same time proposes a passkey as an alternative on desktop. Go figure.
- joquarky 9mo ago
  This is only going to get worse as nepotistic brogrammers continue to take over the industry and gish gallop their bullshit over the experienced developers.

sdoering 9mo ago

On the same tangent. My former bank forced me to use a 6 - 8 digit password with only numbers allowed. Not sure if in the few years since I am not a customer anymore, they changed this policy, though.

ivanjermakov 9mo ago
Just begging for someones date of birth, lol.

tuetuopay 9mo ago

Yup, mine does this, even on the web. Oh god French banks do love their scrambled-digit-keyboards. And boy do they love 6 to 8 digits passwords. That you have to click on using your mouse. No password manager required! Their app also likes to prompt me periodically for the password instead of the phone's biometrics, which would be good, except it always happens in a public place like the subway, which is the last place I'd want to enter a 6 digit code to my bank account on a scrambled visual keyboard which slows down typing to a point it's trivial to write down (instead of letting muscle memory do its job). Also, it seems like those apps did not get the ATM memo of giving visual/audio feedback on a random delay to user input, to y'know, not letting glancers know what you actually type. AFAIK this trend of visual scrambled keyboard on the desktop started when keyloggers were rampant. They quickly adapted to screenshot the 20px around the mouse on click when on a bank website. The banks never adapted.

Avamander 9mo ago
That's incredibly primitive. It's about time some countries implemented proper digital IDs that would deprecate garbage approaches like these.
benhurmarcel 9mo ago
One of them has that “scrambled visual keyboard” for an 8-digit password, and at the same time proposes a passkey as an alternative on desktop. Go figure.
joquarky 9mo ago
This is only going to get worse as nepotistic brogrammers continue to take over the industry and gish gallop their bullshit over the experienced developers.