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LLMs are great if you don't care about every little detail being correct nor having control of how everything works so that you can change it whenever the situa

by mgaunard 10mo ago

LLMs are great if you don't care about every little detail being correct nor having control of how everything works so that you can change it whenever the situation warrants it. Turns out that a lot of code is fine with this. Some parts of the industry still have more stringent standards however.

catigula 10mo ago
Nope. It's still faster to just prompt Claude and read all of the output, I'm sorry.
- greggoB 10mo ago
  That's a very broad statement, explicitly covering all types of code and all kinds of coders. Are you really confident enough to make such an assertion?
  - catigula 10mo ago
    Yes. It's not just me: I'm a professional staff engineer, great. Andrej Karpathy is one of the best engineers in the country, George Hotz is one of the best engineers in the country, etc.
    - greggoB 10mo ago
      My question was more rhetorical, the point being that it's very bold (read: foolish) to make a claim that extends well outside of any conceivable amount of experience you may have accrued or ability to know how others may operate. > Andrej Karpathy is one of the best engineers in the country, George Hotz is one of the best engineers in the country, etc. You have citations of them explicitly making this claim on behalf of all SWEs in all domains/langs? I'd find that surprising, if so. Edit: just came across this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46395714 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46395714, to me this sounds like Karpathy's sentiment is contra to yours.
    - mgaunard 10mo ago
      What are the achievements of these people that make them "the best engineers in the country"? They're also people who have founded AI companies, so of course they would push for it. It feels like you're taking all the claims of the AI hype bubble at face value.
      - greggoB 10mo ago
        Tbh I also really don't get what the parent-commenter is trying to say in general, I'm not sure they do either ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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verdverm 10mo ago
> if you don't care about every little detail being correct nor having control of how everything works This is the same situation we were in decades ago, just before ai, and still are AI changes nothing about this statement, humans do not write prefect code
- mgaunard 10mo ago
  That's not true of all code bases. Some projects are built by very small close-knit teams which get to drive everything. In that scenario the developers have tight control over every little detail.

catigula 10mo ago

Nope. It's still faster to just prompt Claude and read all of the output, I'm sorry.

greggoB 10mo ago
That's a very broad statement, explicitly covering all types of code and all kinds of coders. Are you really confident enough to make such an assertion?
- catigula 10mo ago
  Yes. It's not just me: I'm a professional staff engineer, great. Andrej Karpathy is one of the best engineers in the country, George Hotz is one of the best engineers in the country, etc.
  - greggoB 10mo ago
    My question was more rhetorical, the point being that it's very bold (read: foolish) to make a claim that extends well outside of any conceivable amount of experience you may have accrued or ability to know how others may operate. > Andrej Karpathy is one of the best engineers in the country, George Hotz is one of the best engineers in the country, etc. You have citations of them explicitly making this claim on behalf of all SWEs in all domains/langs? I'd find that surprising, if so. Edit: just came across this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46395714 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46395714, to me this sounds like Karpathy's sentiment is contra to yours.
  - mgaunard 10mo ago
    What are the achievements of these people that make them "the best engineers in the country"? They're also people who have founded AI companies, so of course they would push for it. It feels like you're taking all the claims of the AI hype bubble at face value.
    - greggoB 10mo ago
      Tbh I also really don't get what the parent-commenter is trying to say in general, I'm not sure they do either ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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verdverm 10mo ago

> if you don't care about every little detail being correct nor having control of how everything works This is the same situation we were in decades ago, just before ai, and still are AI changes nothing about this statement, humans do not write prefect code

mgaunard 10mo ago
That's not true of all code bases. Some projects are built by very small close-knit teams which get to drive everything. In that scenario the developers have tight control over every little detail.