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U.S. decision to impose travel restrictions on EU individuals

28 points by doener 10mo ago

belter 10mo ago
Visa revoked. Entry denied. Decision executed. EU response: "Can you explain what you meant by that?"
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impossiblefork 10mo ago
It's funny how quick they are to make a statement about this, when it's one of their guys (Breton), but the many employees at the ICC, they have to complain in the media about being effectively barred from using financial services and despite that, for them they haven't put out a press release even now.
- reloadtak 10mo ago
  EU != ICC
  - impossiblefork 10mo ago
    Sure, but when you're hosting an international institution you should be expected to ensure circumstances that allow it to function. Sanctions aren't like normal boycotts and banks aren't normally allowed to terminate the accounts of law-abiding people.
- spwa4 10mo ago
  The UN has become a death trap for politician's careers, and so the EU and the UN are no longer friends. Why? The US defunded the UN ... and, much less reported, the EU largely followed suit. And yes, these organizations defend the careers of their previous members. Of course. Plus most of the people with real positions there make Musk look like an altruistic genuinely kind person, so these discussions aren't nice. I would expect worse explosions in the future. Much worse.
  - impossiblefork 10mo ago
    I don't understand your comment at all.
gnabgib 10mo ago
This is about 5 specific individuals, not all of Europe. (US decision to impose travel restrictions on certain EU individuals) Related: US bars 5 Europeans it says pressured tech firms to censor American viewpoints (92 points, 3 days ago, 35 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46370787 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46370787
jmclnx 10mo ago
>If needed, we will respond swiftly and decisively to defend our regulatory autonomy against unjustified measures. We know what this really means, the EU will really do nothing but maybe talk to the US ambassador in a stern tone. I wish here in the US and elsewhere people would stand up to the current US regime.
- reloadtak 10mo ago
  What would you like the response to be? Retaliatory? Barring some US citizens? What would be gained from that. “The only winning move is not to play“
  - cindyllm 10mo ago
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  - jmclnx 10mo ago
    Yes, bar some high level people in the US. Treat the US like was done to the USSR using tit-for-tat diplomacy. You need to stand up to bullies.
ChrisArchitect 10mo ago
Europe slams visa bans after US takes fresh swing at allies over 'censorship' https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/france-condemns-us-visa-ban-imposed-ex-eu-commissioner-breton-2025-12-24/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/france-condemns-us-visa...

28 points by doener 10mo ago

belter 10mo ago

Visa revoked. Entry denied. Decision executed. EU response: "Can you explain what you meant by that?"

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impossiblefork 10mo ago

It's funny how quick they are to make a statement about this, when it's one of their guys (Breton), but the many employees at the ICC, they have to complain in the media about being effectively barred from using financial services and despite that, for them they haven't put out a press release even now.

reloadtak 10mo ago
EU != ICC
- impossiblefork 10mo ago
  Sure, but when you're hosting an international institution you should be expected to ensure circumstances that allow it to function. Sanctions aren't like normal boycotts and banks aren't normally allowed to terminate the accounts of law-abiding people.
spwa4 10mo ago
The UN has become a death trap for politician's careers, and so the EU and the UN are no longer friends. Why? The US defunded the UN ... and, much less reported, the EU largely followed suit. And yes, these organizations defend the careers of their previous members. Of course. Plus most of the people with real positions there make Musk look like an altruistic genuinely kind person, so these discussions aren't nice. I would expect worse explosions in the future. Much worse.
- impossiblefork 10mo ago
  I don't understand your comment at all.

gnabgib 10mo ago

This is about 5 specific individuals, not all of Europe. (US decision to impose travel restrictions on certain EU individuals) Related: US bars 5 Europeans it says pressured tech firms to censor American viewpoints (92 points, 3 days ago, 35 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46370787 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46370787

jmclnx 10mo ago

>If needed, we will respond swiftly and decisively to defend our regulatory autonomy against unjustified measures. We know what this really means, the EU will really do nothing but maybe talk to the US ambassador in a stern tone. I wish here in the US and elsewhere people would stand up to the current US regime.

reloadtak 10mo ago
What would you like the response to be? Retaliatory? Barring some US citizens? What would be gained from that. “The only winning move is not to play“
- cindyllm 10mo ago
  [dead]
- jmclnx 10mo ago
  Yes, bar some high level people in the US. Treat the US like was done to the USSR using tit-for-tat diplomacy. You need to stand up to bullies.

ChrisArchitect 10mo ago

Europe slams visa bans after US takes fresh swing at allies over 'censorship' https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/france-condemns-us-visa-ban-imposed-ex-eu-commissioner-breton-2025-12-24/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/france-condemns-us-visa...