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Another reason to step away from spinning rust. Thank dog for SSDs
by nntwozz 10mo ago
Another reason to step away from spinning rust.
Thank dog for SSDs
- functionmouse 10mo agoSpinning rust may be defeated by Janet Jackson, but your chip storage is defeated by just sitting undisturbed in a drawer or a closet for too long...
- mc32 10mo agoPlatters are not made of iron (or even steel) and neither is the surface, so I’m not sure why rust comes into the picture.
- onraglanroad 10mo agoThe platters used to be coated with iron oxide as the magnetic coating. Modern ones use more exotic materials.
- mc32 10mo agoYes but that was like 40 years ago. I think by now the phraseology should reflect reality after about forty years.
- jacquesm 10mo agoHow many horsepower does your car have?
- theandrewbailey 10mo agoWe still talk about "bugs" (99+% of computer defects in the past 70+ years have not been caused by insects) and "AJAX" (long after most of these requests use JSON instead of XML).
- seanhandley 10mo ago“Phraseology” is subtly different. You mean “vocabulary”, “terminology”, possibly “nomenclature”.
- arcanemachiner 10mo agoIronically, I only started hearing the term being used in the past decade, as a colloquial alternative to solid-state storage.
- vee-kay 10mo agoTechnically, that magnetic spinning HDD can work even after decades if maintained safely (no dust, no extreme heat) and without stress, even if it is not switched on for years. In fact, if a magnetic HDD crashes, you may still recover some or all of the data by doing something hardcore, such as letting it sit for some hours in the freezer of your refrigerator, or immersing it in a bowl of rice overnight. However, SSDs (and other flash storage devices) need to be switched on once in few months, otherwise there's a chance that some data stored in them may be permanently lost, as some cells may loose their power. "As a reminder, an SSD's endurance rating is calculated based on how long it can store data if left unplugged after a certain amount of data has been written": https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/unpowered-ssd-endurance-investigation-finds-severe-data-loss-and-performance-issues-reminds-us-of-the-importance-of-refreshing-backups https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/unpowered...
- daymanstep 10mo agoHDDs also lose magnetic charge over time, about 1% per year. So you need to periodically spin up and rewrite the data every few years. CD drives however, can store data indefinitely without needing refreshing.
- aidenn0 10mo agoCD-R media is of limited shelf life as well though
- binarymax 10mo agoBut the materials on the CD eventually break down, sometimes as soon as within 5 years. So you can look into MDisc, which purports 100 years…but only in theory since the tests are just approximations of what would actually happen.
- iwontberude 10mo agoTotally could be a defect in the lamination we don’t find out for years yet
- Dylan16807 10mo agoIt's a reason not to use a hard drive from over 20 years ago. But if you're stuck with hardware that old, an SSD isn't an option.
- wtallis 10mo agoIDE SSDs have been a niche but readily-available product for as long as consumer SSDs have been mainstream. CompactFlash cards ensured that the necessary controller chips were available.
- Dylan16807 10mo agoOkay I guess you can use a 4GB CompactFlash card that cost a thousand dollars at the time. (While a laptop hard drive could reach 100GB.)