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Lamenting market taste and the resulting mass market designs is basically yelling at clouds. Simple fact is that most people have different priorities than the

• goku12 10mo ago
  I was expecting this reply here. But it's still the same old excuse to do nothing. It's as if we deserve nothing better than what the companies impose upon us. That's such a defeatist stance.
  • grim_io 10mo ago
    I don't think anyone is concerned what anyone deserves in terms of hardware. Different companies "impose" different tradeoffs upon us. Pick what you like, but expect to pay a premium for a less popular choice.
    • goku12 10mo ago
      > Different companies "impose" different tradeoffs upon us. The "different tradeoffs" those companies offer us are a lie. There are other tradeoffs they won't ever explore. But I won't explain it anymore because I did that practically in every single comment of mine in this thread. Just ignoring it and repeating this trope is hardly a counterargument. > Pick what you like, but expect to pay a premium for a less popular choice. The argument about choices is also a lie. They don't exist because the market is a heavily captured and manipulated one. You might as well wait for Santa Claus to deliver it instead. This is again something that's repeatedly ignored. We're just arguing in cycles here. There are a lot of missing choices in modular, serviceable and repairable market - which is why you see so many little complaints in this thread about a company that's sincerely attempting to offer and improve modular options. It's not that there's no demand for it. But the majority consumers just de-incentivices such products out of the market by following the hype and choosing the harmful options. At least, the majority of the consumers can be forgiven for their ignorance about those tradeoffs. But that's something that the knowledgeable and expert population can solve. The others respect their opinion. But instead of pushing for the common good, they consistently show apathy. It really isn't that big of a deal. The experts have to be more honest and vocal about their own specialities, and the situation will gradually improve. People have rallied and achieved much harder goals. But the really frustrating aspect is that some people actively sabotage the commons. At this point, I don't believe that the tech influencers are being honest about the interests they serve. And equally bad are the misguided defeatist arguments raised against advocacy for the commons. I really don't understand the motivation behind such excessively cynical takes.
      • cindyllm 10mo ago
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      • grim_io 10mo ago
        And yet, you completely ignore the possibility that someone could value portability, lightness or even looks of the device far above any points you hold very dear. I get it, all that you say I would agree on regarding my stationary hardware. On the go, I have very different demands. And the hardware sellers are not stupid, they know what sells.
• wkat4242 10mo ago
  > It’s like asking that all car buyers unite and demand manual transmissions in every car. I love manual cars, but I recognize most people do not want that for most of their driving. So why would the majority demand this feature that they don’t actually want, and which would not be a better experience for most? Um that's like the status quo in Europe lol. We all drive manual here. it's not that unlikely. Automatics are the exception here (and you must learn to drive manual otherwise you get a restricted license)
  • Dylan16807 10mo ago
    Driving it is different from demanding it. What percent of people in Europe would pay more for manual?