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Reminds me of Windows Search. It's been botched since they added ads to the Start Menu. Pretty soon VSCode will show you intellisense ads in the list of code

Reminds me of Windows Search. It's been botched since they added ads to the Start Menu. Pretty soon VSCode will show you intellisense ads in the list of code completions.

Someone1234 10mo ago
Windows Search requires a DNS lookup, and HTTP request to start your search, as a direct result if either one of those is slow the whole UI lags and hangs. It hasn't ever been fixed in Windows 11. Also, there is a RegX way of disabling "bing" for-real in the search but they released an update that caused doing so to break search entirely if that was set (totally a coincidence I'm sure).
- OptionOfT 10mo ago
  I have resorted to installing my laptop with Ireland / English & later switching the region to US / English. That way it's considered part of the European Economic Area. Which allows me to disable web search in start, disable widgets, etc.
- WackyFighter 10mo ago
  I use this script here and it will remove the stupid bing search feature. https://github.com/musman96/win11debloat https://github.com/musman96/win11debloat
- naikrovek 10mo ago
  > Windows Search requires a DNS lookup WHY? Why? Why. I’m seriously asking. Who thought that was a good idea? Who?! FIRE THEM. NO USER ever in the history of Windows users ever said: “I want to search the contents of my computer, but windows search is too fast; can you please make windows search extremely slow, make it omit things that I know exist, and also make it search the internet? Also, I want you to index my laptop while it is sleeping in my bag, making my bag very hot, and using up all my battery trying to cool down so that I have no battery left when I open up the laptop.” No one has ever asked for that, but we have it, we’ve had it for a long damn time.
  - cryptonector 10mo ago
    BECAUSE ads that's why. They could have had the sense and respect for their users to make it async.
    - naikrovek 10mo ago
      This started before suggestions in the start menu. Odd capitalization detected: might indicate that commenter is older with opinions stronger and more frequent than normal.
      - cryptonector 10mo ago
        The "odd capitalization" was humor related to the parent comment's "odd capitalization".
  - vkou 10mo ago
    The best thing about windows 11 is that if you hit the windows key, and type 'restart', it searches for 'restart' on Bing. Please give me the name, rank, and serial number of the PM who thought this was a good idea. I will use all my meager fortune to make sure that nobody will want to hire them for PM work ever again.
    - jukkan 10mo ago
      Try and search for 'recycle bin' and you get zero local results in Windows 11. Unless you've gone and manually added the desktop icon into you Start menu items. 30 years ago, Win95 introduced the Recycle Bin. Maybe, just maybe, you should have made it discoverable via the Start menu by now?
    - anonymars 10mo ago
      I'd say that's the second best, after "there's probably a 5-10% chance the start menu search doesn't actually pop up correctly in the first place"
    - pests 10mo ago
- drnick1 10mo ago
  > Windows Search requires a DNS lookup, and HTTP request to start your search, as a direct result if either one of those is slow the whole UI lags and hangs. It hasn't ever been fixed in Windows 11. The fix is called Linux.
- The_President 10mo ago
  I was surprised when I saw that in Windows 11 Safe Mode, the Start Menu appeared to have two forms: the first of which would not appear to show typing, but then it would be replaced with the other layout after a lag with the query in the input box and the results populated.
FridayoLeary 10mo ago
I'm convinced that the win10 Start Menu was the single worst thing microsoft inflicted upon us in that OS. I imagine that particular discussion went like this: Exec1:"We have a semi decent os with a refreshingly updated UI that should stay relevant for a decade. How can we make it better?" Exec2: "why not replace the perfectly good start menu we have with an ugly, oddly proportioned rectangle with animated ads for our products." Exec3: "Sounds great! Just make sure it has a quarter of the information density of the old one and takes up twice the screen space." I haven't used Win11 enough to discover how they have managed to further degrade the experience, but at least it looks nicer.
- esseph 10mo ago
  Do you remember the windows 8 full screen start menu?
  - 8note 10mo ago
    i miss the wondows 8 inking tools. loved that for drawing system diagrams and flow charts:'(
  - speedgoose 10mo ago
    I used it and it was alright. They made it optionally not full screen in Windows 8.1 quickly too.
- naikrovek 10mo ago
  When Windows Phone was a thing, those live tiles were amazing. Those giant squares in the Win10 start menu were live tiles. Such a shame that so few applications on Win10 made use of them.
  - FridayoLeary 10mo ago
    Never saw the point of them. I prefer static content, something which most web designers can't wrap their heads around. Easy navigation is something Mac sucks at for no good reason. I don't know why Windows is trying to degrade their advantage.
anonymars 10mo ago
It boggles my mind how broken this has become. Windows Vista/7, search was instant and correct (modulo hard drive speed and RAM). Then Windows 10 came along, I click a local result, half the time it takes forever to open Explorer, or nothing happens, or there's no results once it does open. By the way, things still work correctly and instantly with OpenShell, so something still works underneath whatever shit veneer has coated the shell Let me fix the title: Microsoft, please get your shit together I tried to help a relative set up a new Windows PC recently and had to give up. Everything was confusing and/or broken, and for the first time I am ready to just send them to Apple while they can still return it. A literal brand new PC with nothing installed, and after logging in, clicking Explorer in the task bar doesn't work and I have to reboot and try again? I'm not even angry, just disappointed. Did you know there's no more Office, they literally call it Microsoft Copilot 365 now? Like, I've been through shades of this before (".NET", anyone?) but it's a thoroughly unhinged clusterfuck on an entirely different level now. Oh, I'd say AI is rotting our brains, all right...
dietr1ch 10mo ago
> It's been botched since they added ads to the Start Menu. Sounds like botched since they botched it

Reminds me of Windows Search. It's been botched since they added ads to the Start Menu. Pretty soon VSCode will show you intellisense ads in the list of code completions.

Someone1234 10mo ago

Windows Search requires a DNS lookup, and HTTP request to start your search, as a direct result if either one of those is slow the whole UI lags and hangs. It hasn't ever been fixed in Windows 11. Also, there is a RegX way of disabling "bing" for-real in the search but they released an update that caused doing so to break search entirely if that was set (totally a coincidence I'm sure).

OptionOfT 10mo ago
I have resorted to installing my laptop with Ireland / English & later switching the region to US / English. That way it's considered part of the European Economic Area. Which allows me to disable web search in start, disable widgets, etc.
WackyFighter 10mo ago
I use this script here and it will remove the stupid bing search feature. https://github.com/musman96/win11debloat https://github.com/musman96/win11debloat
naikrovek 10mo ago
> Windows Search requires a DNS lookup WHY? Why? Why. I’m seriously asking. Who thought that was a good idea? Who?! FIRE THEM. NO USER ever in the history of Windows users ever said: “I want to search the contents of my computer, but windows search is too fast; can you please make windows search extremely slow, make it omit things that I know exist, and also make it search the internet? Also, I want you to index my laptop while it is sleeping in my bag, making my bag very hot, and using up all my battery trying to cool down so that I have no battery left when I open up the laptop.” No one has ever asked for that, but we have it, we’ve had it for a long damn time.
- cryptonector 10mo ago
  BECAUSE ads that's why. They could have had the sense and respect for their users to make it async.
  - naikrovek 10mo ago
    This started before suggestions in the start menu. Odd capitalization detected: might indicate that commenter is older with opinions stronger and more frequent than normal.
    - cryptonector 10mo ago
      The "odd capitalization" was humor related to the parent comment's "odd capitalization".
- vkou 10mo ago
  The best thing about windows 11 is that if you hit the windows key, and type 'restart', it searches for 'restart' on Bing. Please give me the name, rank, and serial number of the PM who thought this was a good idea. I will use all my meager fortune to make sure that nobody will want to hire them for PM work ever again.
  - jukkan 10mo ago
    Try and search for 'recycle bin' and you get zero local results in Windows 11. Unless you've gone and manually added the desktop icon into you Start menu items. 30 years ago, Win95 introduced the Recycle Bin. Maybe, just maybe, you should have made it discoverable via the Start menu by now?
  - anonymars 10mo ago
    I'd say that's the second best, after "there's probably a 5-10% chance the start menu search doesn't actually pop up correctly in the first place"
  - pests 10mo ago
drnick1 10mo ago
> Windows Search requires a DNS lookup, and HTTP request to start your search, as a direct result if either one of those is slow the whole UI lags and hangs. It hasn't ever been fixed in Windows 11. The fix is called Linux.
The_President 10mo ago
I was surprised when I saw that in Windows 11 Safe Mode, the Start Menu appeared to have two forms: the first of which would not appear to show typing, but then it would be replaced with the other layout after a lag with the query in the input box and the results populated.

FridayoLeary 10mo ago

I'm convinced that the win10 Start Menu was the single worst thing microsoft inflicted upon us in that OS. I imagine that particular discussion went like this: Exec1:"We have a semi decent os with a refreshingly updated UI that should stay relevant for a decade. How can we make it better?" Exec2: "why not replace the perfectly good start menu we have with an ugly, oddly proportioned rectangle with animated ads for our products." Exec3: "Sounds great! Just make sure it has a quarter of the information density of the old one and takes up twice the screen space." I haven't used Win11 enough to discover how they have managed to further degrade the experience, but at least it looks nicer.

esseph 10mo ago
Do you remember the windows 8 full screen start menu?
- 8note 10mo ago
  i miss the wondows 8 inking tools. loved that for drawing system diagrams and flow charts:'(
- speedgoose 10mo ago
  I used it and it was alright. They made it optionally not full screen in Windows 8.1 quickly too.
naikrovek 10mo ago
When Windows Phone was a thing, those live tiles were amazing. Those giant squares in the Win10 start menu were live tiles. Such a shame that so few applications on Win10 made use of them.
- FridayoLeary 10mo ago
  Never saw the point of them. I prefer static content, something which most web designers can't wrap their heads around. Easy navigation is something Mac sucks at for no good reason. I don't know why Windows is trying to degrade their advantage.

anonymars 10mo ago

It boggles my mind how broken this has become. Windows Vista/7, search was instant and correct (modulo hard drive speed and RAM). Then Windows 10 came along, I click a local result, half the time it takes forever to open Explorer, or nothing happens, or there's no results once it does open. By the way, things still work correctly and instantly with OpenShell, so something still works underneath whatever shit veneer has coated the shell Let me fix the title: Microsoft, please get your shit together I tried to help a relative set up a new Windows PC recently and had to give up. Everything was confusing and/or broken, and for the first time I am ready to just send them to Apple while they can still return it. A literal brand new PC with nothing installed, and after logging in, clicking Explorer in the task bar doesn't work and I have to reboot and try again? I'm not even angry, just disappointed. Did you know there's no more Office, they literally call it Microsoft Copilot 365 now? Like, I've been through shades of this before (".NET", anyone?) but it's a thoroughly unhinged clusterfuck on an entirely different level now. Oh, I'd say AI is rotting our brains, all right...

dietr1ch 10mo ago

> It's been botched since they added ads to the Start Menu. Sounds like botched since they botched it