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From reading the page the study “examines public attitudes social media regulation and banning political advertising from social platforms.” The question: To w
by lastdong 10mo ago
From reading the page the study “examines public attitudes social media regulation and banning political advertising from social platforms.”
The question: To what extent, if at all, would you support or oppose banning political adverts from being shown on social media platforms?
They conclude with: Voters for far-right parties are frequently less likely to support banning of political advertising on social media … and less likely to think regulations are too lax … typically less likely to think social media regulations are too relaxed (with Italy being an exception).
- miroljub 10mo ago> They conclude with: Voters for far-right parties are frequently less likely to support banning of political advertising on social media Maybe the issue here is that many political options have social media and underground marketing as their only option due to heavy bias and censorship on European traditional media. Even the term used here "far right" is an euphemism for opinions not approved by governing European regimes.
- snowpid 10mo agoMaybe the "far right" is a good description. E.g. AfD. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_f%C3%BCr_Deutschland#Treffen_mit_Vertretern_rechtsextremer_und_identit%C3%A4rer_Bewegungen https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_f%C3%BCr_Deutschla...
- miroljub 10mo agoWhich of actual AfD policies are actually far right? EDIT: I am ignoring this link since its main source is Corrective, propaganda outlet funded by the German regime.
- gloryjulio 10mo agoWhitewashing nazi issues(not the casual nazi labels we have seen these days, but the actual Nazi Germany) would be considered far right
- miroljub 10mo agoCalling everyone you don’t are far right and nazi is belittling of the real nazis. Edit since I can’t answer: I’m not referring to this thread. It’s German regime outlets calling their opponents Nazis and far right.
- gloryjulio 10mo agoI am saying the act of whitewashing nazi issues(not the casual nazi labels we have seen these days, but the actual Nazi Germany) would be considered far right. Do you agree that this happened? No one is calling everyone nazi in this thread. Who are you referring to?
- gloryjulio 10mo agoTo you edit: Again, you are ignoring the issue I raised: Whitewashing nazi issues(not the casual nazi labels we have seen these days, but the actual Nazi Germany) would be considered far right. This is about the actual fact about whitewashing the actual historical Nazi Germany. So I would take it as you are dodging the question and you are agreeing with my previous criteria: The people or organization whitewashing the actual historical Nazi Germany issues would be considered as far right.
- snowpid 10mo agoyou are here https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/innenpolitik/afd-verfassungsschutz-rechtsextremismus-100.html https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/innenpolitik/afd-verfassung... "EDIT: I am ignoring this link since its main source is Corrective, propaganda outlet funded by the German regime" Maybe they just publish what you don't like. They are a left outlet but certainly not pro government.
- saubeidl 10mo agohttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/19/turmoil-in-germany-over-neo-nazi-mass-deportation-meeting-explained https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/19/turmoil-in-ger...
- master-lincoln 10mo agoNot sure about their policies, but there have been many expressions from AfD politicians which are not in line with the German constitution. https://afd-verbot.de/beweise https://afd-verbot.de/beweise
- sunaookami 10mo agoThe current government constantly violates the consitution, they are still trying to implement Vorratsdatenspeicherung which was ruled illegal by the constitutional court. The former government tried to change how elections work with the goal of kicking out opposition parties. And for the current elections there still wasn't a needed re-count because the organisation that needs to approve a re-count is the current government themselves. How is any of that in line with the consitution? It's ever only an argument when it's the "side I don't like".
- miroljub 10mo agoIt’s funny when people blame opposition for things regime says they would do if they come to power, but tolerate all autocratic tendencies of the current regime. The self-elected one, as you point out. Edit: self-approved is better term, since without recount of votes we still don’t know if current regime has a majority.
- ben_w 10mo ago> EDIT: I am ignoring this link since its main source is Corrective, propaganda outlet funded by the German regime. Well, if you ignore all the evidence you consider inconvenient, you could, you know, read their own self-description as "right wing" and combine that with the observation of them being too right wing for the other right wing parties.
- kergonath 10mo ago> Which of actual AfD policies are actually far right? What about most of them? Just look at who they are teaming with in the European Parliament. Or what they say about themselves. That should give you a hint. > I am ignoring this link since its main source is Corrective, propaganda outlet funded by the German regime. Right. It’s just what (((they))) want you to believe.
- miroljub 10mo agoSo, you don’t like their coalition parters in the eu parliament? And you didn’t list a single far right policy of AfD. How about just naming one actual far right AfD policy so we can bring discussion from feeling back to facts.
- snowpid 10mo agoI named various one of them and other provide some links.. You just called the AfD pro-jewish party while most jews despite the party. I think you might just be to check the sources.
- koiueo 10mo ago"Regime" is a popular among populists euphemism for elected governments they wish to topple.
- p2detar 10mo agoI like Encyclopedia Britannica‘s definition [0]: > It [regime] is used colloquially by some, such as government officials, media journalists, and policy makers, when referring to governments that they believe are repressive, undemocratic, or illegitimate or simply do not square with the person’s own view of the world. 0 - https://www.britannica.com/topic/regime https://www.britannica.com/topic/regime
- h4xx0r1337 10mo ago>repressive, undemocratic, or illegitimate That is a very good description of the EU.
- miroljub 10mo agoI use regime for my government exactly because that's how they call governments they don't like. Seems like they don't like when their citizens apply the same terminology.
- rorylawless 10mo agoWhat collective term would you use to describe the parties referenced in the poll?
- miroljub 10mo agoOpposition.
- jknoepfler 10mo ago"Far right" isn't a euphemism for anything, it's exactly what it is. Countries that collapsed into actual fascism (e.g. Germany, Italy, Spain) within living memory, which then spent the subsequent century abutting the monstrosity of a totalitarian Communist regime ("far left") are indeed reluctant to air "far right" and "far left" views because they understand how they play out in practice: global war killing tens of millions, millions of civilians dead at the hands of their own state-sponsored militaries, a legacy of atrocity that will never wash clean, utter economic and cultural devastation echoing for decades... just an absolutely sickening inversion of the human spirit and what people want to believe in as citizens. "Far right" views are far right views. They are morally repulsive in the extreme. We've witnessed the consequences before.
- fancyfredbot 10mo agoWe can see specifically which parties You Gov classify as far right. AfD in Germany. Le Pen in France. Fratelli d’Italia in Italy. VOX in Spain. PVV in the Netherlands. I do not know that any of those parties would seriously disagree with their classification as far right.
- EarlKing 10mo ago[flagged]
- snowpid 10mo agoI dont think the proletariat will beat up jews or gay men on the street which is one assoziation I have for far right.
- EarlKing 10mo agoYes, that is an opinion you are supposed to have. You are supposed to associate the regime's class enemies with nazis and communists so that their claims can be dismissed without a single rational thought. "They beat up jews and gays!" is a great way to avoid having a difficult conversation about the regime's blatantly hostile policies against their own people.
- miroljub 10mo agoYou would be surprised that "far right" AfD is the most pro Jew party in Germany, polling at first place among Jews. AfD party later is gay and merited with a coloured migrant lay. But hey, they beat gays and Jews. Probably kick kittens and puppies too.
- kergonath 10mo ago> Even the term used here "far right" is an euphemism for opinions not approved by governing European regimes. Seriously. We know what far right is. It’s close to mainstream or mainstream in all EU countries. It is not suppressed anywhere, except for the nazi party in Germany. I mean, even AfD, which is as close as it gets, can still present candidates and campaign for them. And we have plenty of experience of what happens when they come to power. You can stop clutching your pearls.
- intended 10mo agoYes? The Primae Noctis party would largely be “censored” in current social circles. The fact that we can use money to saturate the information economy, and create the perception of validity, is a form of market manipulation that is used extensively today. See “Intelligent Design” for a great example of how that was applied in America. These ideological beach heads are strategized and implemented by media consultants, and media owners. Yet this is protected speech. All the while actual fact checkers, researchers and content moderation efforts are censorial. This super simplistic interpretation of how speech operates in the modern world is now more abused by attackers, than of explanatory value to defenders. I would really love if people were somehow more interested in the way modern persuasion techniques are applied. At least that way we would have more interesting conversations on how to have checks and balances that work.
- nutjob2 10mo agoMany people find far right views repugnant so they don't want to repeat or endorse them. What you call "censorship" and "bias" is just people disagreeing with you.
- llmslave2 10mo agoSomehow the modern right are the most opposed to government intervention these days, so I would expect them to be the majority in opposition to almost any proposed regulation or legislation, regardless of the contents.
- snowpid 10mo agoEU commision has a centre right head. Germany has a centre right head. Italy has Meloni. Yet most people in these countries want more social media regulation.