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> Many people have suggested strategies for dealing with this. One popular technique is Inbox Zero. The jokes about it suggests virtually nobody attains it, but

by parpfish 10mo ago

> Many people have suggested strategies for dealing with this. One popular technique is Inbox Zero. The jokes about it suggests virtually nobody attains it, but I’m not even convinced it’s a virtue I have inbox zero for personal and work emails. I can’t imagine living any other way.

BLKNSLVR 10mo ago
I propose Inbox Infinite. Just use search. If search can't find it then the content wasn't descriptive enough and it is unimportant because the sender obviously didn't care enough to describe it properly. Don't let lazy people make you more busy than you already are.
- nradov 10mo ago
  Sometimes the lazy people have money that you want, or are gatekeepers on getting money from others. So you have to accommodate their laziness if you want to eat.
- fogzen 10mo ago
  That only works if you don’t receive any real communication where people expect a response, right? I think that is the case for most people. If you don’t actually communicate with email then Inbox Infinite seems the way to go. You only go in to search for a confirmation code or receipt for something. This is how I observe most people using email.
- TeMPOraL 10mo ago
  That would work, if Email search was reliable.
fogzen 10mo ago
Same. Both my personal and work inbox are currently empty. I think it’s easier than ever now that spam filters are so good. I don’t have notifications enabled. I triage the inbox 1-3 times a day, outside of checking for an expected email. Triage means responding then archiving, deleting, or snoozing. It’s pretty easy so I’m always baffled by people who have thousands of emails in their inbox. I get the feeling they just don’t take action or don’t receive any real communication.
- tracker1 10mo ago
  I will say that I do have thousands in my personal email... only in that I had it for close to a decade before I started deleting just about all new emails, if there weren't a few important emails that I hadn't archived outside email (license keys, etc) that I should, but maybe don't have outside email, I'd probably nuke it all. For work, I'm pretty close to inbox zero... I'll mark unread if I need to followup and cannot at that moment, or if it's related to a yet-uncomplete task I'm waiting on from someone else. But at least once a week it's all empty. I also tend to only check a couple times a day, and my personal email a couple times a week... similar no notifications. If it's important it will be IM, Text, or heaven forbid an actual voice phone call.
- parpfish 10mo ago
  Not to mention that their notifications are useless. How do they know when new emails arrive?! It’s more work if you have to constantly go in and monitor instead of waiting for a push that says “here are three new messages”
- dxdm 10mo ago
  > It’s pretty easy so I’m always baffled by people who have thousands of emails in their inbox. Because it's easiER to have thousands of emails in your inbox. Half-jokes aside, it's not as easy for everyone. I can speak only for myself, but maybe I can explain. My mind abhors chaos, but it abhors dealing with chaos even more. It doesn't like dealing with emails, triaging them is a pain when I could be doing something interesting instead. My mind gets repelled by my email inbox, I have to force myself, and I mean FORCE myself to do things with it. Then there's the chance of getting sucked in by an email that is not that important but takes a lot of time, but somehow my mind latches onto it and needs it done right now. So, even just dipping in for a quick check can escalate. Some days it's easier, but it's heavily dependent of other circumstances that keep changing. All of this (and more) makes it very hard to establish a routine around it. And because dealing with emails repels me so much, for work I usually go through periods where I start with a clean inbox, then stuff accumulates until I get fed up enough to put on my rubber gloves and clean it again. My personal email just accumulates. That being said, I still get things done, of course. It just looks messy, which btw is very different from the code that I write and like to surround myself with, which is sparkly clean. I hope that shines a light on why other people's inboxes might be different from yours. I also find myself baffled by other people's habits and behaviors sometimes. I think these differences often boil down to that different people find different things easier or harder than others. But it's quite hard to keep that in mind, let alone what it might actually feel like to be in somebody else's brain.
carlosjobim 10mo ago
My grandfather survived a Japanese prisoner of war camp when his mates died, simply because he always practiced inbox zero.

BLKNSLVR 10mo ago

I propose Inbox Infinite. Just use search. If search can't find it then the content wasn't descriptive enough and it is unimportant because the sender obviously didn't care enough to describe it properly. Don't let lazy people make you more busy than you already are.

nradov 10mo ago
Sometimes the lazy people have money that you want, or are gatekeepers on getting money from others. So you have to accommodate their laziness if you want to eat.
fogzen 10mo ago
That only works if you don’t receive any real communication where people expect a response, right? I think that is the case for most people. If you don’t actually communicate with email then Inbox Infinite seems the way to go. You only go in to search for a confirmation code or receipt for something. This is how I observe most people using email.
TeMPOraL 10mo ago
That would work, if Email search was reliable.

fogzen 10mo ago

Same. Both my personal and work inbox are currently empty. I think it’s easier than ever now that spam filters are so good. I don’t have notifications enabled. I triage the inbox 1-3 times a day, outside of checking for an expected email. Triage means responding then archiving, deleting, or snoozing. It’s pretty easy so I’m always baffled by people who have thousands of emails in their inbox. I get the feeling they just don’t take action or don’t receive any real communication.

tracker1 10mo ago
I will say that I do have thousands in my personal email... only in that I had it for close to a decade before I started deleting just about all new emails, if there weren't a few important emails that I hadn't archived outside email (license keys, etc) that I should, but maybe don't have outside email, I'd probably nuke it all. For work, I'm pretty close to inbox zero... I'll mark unread if I need to followup and cannot at that moment, or if it's related to a yet-uncomplete task I'm waiting on from someone else. But at least once a week it's all empty. I also tend to only check a couple times a day, and my personal email a couple times a week... similar no notifications. If it's important it will be IM, Text, or heaven forbid an actual voice phone call.
parpfish 10mo ago
Not to mention that their notifications are useless. How do they know when new emails arrive?! It’s more work if you have to constantly go in and monitor instead of waiting for a push that says “here are three new messages”
dxdm 10mo ago
> It’s pretty easy so I’m always baffled by people who have thousands of emails in their inbox. Because it's easiER to have thousands of emails in your inbox. Half-jokes aside, it's not as easy for everyone. I can speak only for myself, but maybe I can explain. My mind abhors chaos, but it abhors dealing with chaos even more. It doesn't like dealing with emails, triaging them is a pain when I could be doing something interesting instead. My mind gets repelled by my email inbox, I have to force myself, and I mean FORCE myself to do things with it. Then there's the chance of getting sucked in by an email that is not that important but takes a lot of time, but somehow my mind latches onto it and needs it done right now. So, even just dipping in for a quick check can escalate. Some days it's easier, but it's heavily dependent of other circumstances that keep changing. All of this (and more) makes it very hard to establish a routine around it. And because dealing with emails repels me so much, for work I usually go through periods where I start with a clean inbox, then stuff accumulates until I get fed up enough to put on my rubber gloves and clean it again. My personal email just accumulates. That being said, I still get things done, of course. It just looks messy, which btw is very different from the code that I write and like to surround myself with, which is sparkly clean. I hope that shines a light on why other people's inboxes might be different from yours. I also find myself baffled by other people's habits and behaviors sometimes. I think these differences often boil down to that different people find different things easier or harder than others. But it's quite hard to keep that in mind, let alone what it might actually feel like to be in somebody else's brain.

carlosjobim 10mo ago

My grandfather survived a Japanese prisoner of war camp when his mates died, simply because he always practiced inbox zero.