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No, it's more like an ambassador that's appointed by the president, you see we have presidential tickets and you get the two people you vote for, which is diffe

No, it's more like an ambassador that's appointed by the president, you see we have presidential tickets and you get the two people you vote for, which is different from voting for someone then having the person you vote for decide who to appoint. Yes technically the us 'electors' could vote for a different presidential ticket, but that's never happened in practice and even then their options are generally limited by who ran, electors can't pick just anyone.

saubeidl 10mo ago
Technically there is a level of indirection even in the presidency, but sure. Nobody ever complains about ambassadors not being democratic though. Same thing goes for, idk, a Secretary of State or whatever, they all go through the same process. Only when it comes to EU institutions people can't hide their hatred and can't help themselves but make the same old dishonest claim.
- letsthinkmoreok 10mo ago
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  - saubeidl 10mo ago
    > Look up cj Hopkins Yikes, I just did. Trivializing the holocaust in Germany of all places is not a good look. Edit: This is exclusively based on the primary source - a book cover where the guy was using a swastika (!!!) to critise a policy he didn't like - i.e. made light of the holocaust. If you don't understand why that's completely unacceptable, I don't know what to tell you.
    - letsthinkmoreok 10mo ago
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      - saubeidl 10mo ago
        Context matters. It's one thing to use something for documentary purposes or in art. It's another to use it to make light of the holocaust like this guy did. It's all clearly written in our law. If that person didn't want to follow our law, why did he come here? Why do we have to bother with criminal immigrants that don't want to integrate into our way of life?
orwin 10mo ago
Didn't it happened once? Southern democrat great electors voted for the republican Vice president, because the democrat vice-president had a non-white wife, and this was forbidden under US law?
- nailer 10mo ago
  Close: Virginia’s 23 Democratic electors (Southern) refused to vote for Democratic VP candidate Richard Mentor Johnson due to his open common-law relationship with Julia Chinn, an enslaved woman of mixed race (octoroon). Interracial marriage was illegal under anti-miscegenation laws. They voted for Van Buren (president) but switched VP votes to William Smith (another Democrat), denying Johnson a majority. The Senate elected Johnson anyway.

saubeidl 10mo ago

Technically there is a level of indirection even in the presidency, but sure. Nobody ever complains about ambassadors not being democratic though. Same thing goes for, idk, a Secretary of State or whatever, they all go through the same process. Only when it comes to EU institutions people can't hide their hatred and can't help themselves but make the same old dishonest claim.

letsthinkmoreok 10mo ago
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- saubeidl 10mo ago
  > Look up cj Hopkins Yikes, I just did. Trivializing the holocaust in Germany of all places is not a good look. Edit: This is exclusively based on the primary source - a book cover where the guy was using a swastika (!!!) to critise a policy he didn't like - i.e. made light of the holocaust. If you don't understand why that's completely unacceptable, I don't know what to tell you.
  - letsthinkmoreok 10mo ago
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    - saubeidl 10mo ago
      Context matters. It's one thing to use something for documentary purposes or in art. It's another to use it to make light of the holocaust like this guy did. It's all clearly written in our law. If that person didn't want to follow our law, why did he come here? Why do we have to bother with criminal immigrants that don't want to integrate into our way of life?

orwin 10mo ago

Didn't it happened once? Southern democrat great electors voted for the republican Vice president, because the democrat vice-president had a non-white wife, and this was forbidden under US law?

nailer 10mo ago
Close: Virginia’s 23 Democratic electors (Southern) refused to vote for Democratic VP candidate Richard Mentor Johnson due to his open common-law relationship with Julia Chinn, an enslaved woman of mixed race (octoroon). Interracial marriage was illegal under anti-miscegenation laws. They voted for Van Buren (president) but switched VP votes to William Smith (another Democrat), denying Johnson a majority. The Senate elected Johnson anyway.