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404media is shadowbanned from HN for nebulous reasons. The mods should really revisit this policy: they've been doing some great reporting recently.
by tastyface 10mo ago
404media is shadowbanned from HN for nebulous reasons. The mods should really revisit this policy: they've been doing some great reporting recently.
- pyvpx 10mo agoHas there been any mention of reasoning behind it?
- snowwrestler 10mo agoI asked last year and was told 404 is the source of too many copycat low quality posts and they have a paywall. In the year since, a bunch of their original reporting has hit the front page and driven interesting discussions.
- abraham 10mo agoJust to clarify for anyone reading. 404 does not have a paywall. They have an account wall. Some articles require you to be signed into a free account to read.
- snowwrestler 10mo agoFor comparison, the Wall Street Journal does have a paywall but is not a banned site.
- metadope 10mo agoAnd 404 is also not banned, right? As a noob here on HN, that's what I gathered from your previous comment: > In the year since, a bunch of their original reporting has hit the front page So, a year ago, before my time, 404 media was moderated in a way that seemed like a ban, but now it no longer appears to be shadowbanned, is that what I'm learning?
- tastyface 10mo agoIf a 404media article makes it to the front page, it's because enough people happened to vouch a [dead] article, which is quite unusual and involves a lot of luck (since most people don't have showdead enabled). Nothing has changed on the mod side as far as I'm aware.
- mrguyorama 10mo agoDon't forget that complaining about paywalls is actually against the rules. So how did the site get that ban in the first place?
- NaOH 10mo agoThere's nothing nebulous; there's no workaround for 404media's articles. Tell HN: Paywalls with workarounds are OK; paywall complaints are off topic - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10178989 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10178989 - Sept 2015 (160 comments)
- scratchyone 10mo agoIt seems to work for me? https://archive.ph/sr0sd https://archive.ph/sr0sd
- NaOH 10mo agoMaybe that's new? Either way, great to know.
- defrost 10mo agoA16z-backed Doublespeed hacked, revealing what its AI-generated accounts promote (404media.co) 289 points by grahamlee 5 days ago | flag | past | 171 comments so some slip through. But: https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=404media.co https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=404media.co sure has a lot of [dead]
- UncleMeat 10mo agoDon't forget that the mods tried to remove the reference to a16z from the title on that one.
- kotaKat 10mo ago[flagged]
- tomhow 10mo agoThis is false. Nothing was done to your account at that time, whereas rate-limiting was active on your account at least two weeks ago. Rate limiting is applied to accounts that do things like use HN for political/ideological battle, or post too many low-quality comments, both of which you've been doing. Here are some of the worst of the comments you've been posting in recent months. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46347561 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46347561 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46335424 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46335424 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46300618 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46300618 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46272934 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46272934 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46148458 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46148458 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45821460 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45821460 The A16Z title issue was no great scandal. It was bog standard moderation, with attention and responsiveness to community sentiment and feedback. That kind of thing happens all the time. Meanwhile, you post too many comments that break the guidelines and use HN against its intended purpose. HN is only a place people want participate because others make an effort to keep the standards up rather than dragging them down. Please do your part to make HN better not worse if you want to participate here.
- drweevil 10mo agoMy own experience is that they've been solid throughout. Certainly better than many other options, at a time when the technical press has been generally disappointing.
- esseph 10mo agoBecause they've literally been creating stories about A16Z. I've posted about some and they just get instaflagged or hidden.