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When you become complacent and your ego isn’t checked, you think you have the hottest thing. Hubris is hard. They had a pretty big moat that they let vscode eat

When you become complacent and your ego isn’t checked, you think you have the hottest thing. Hubris is hard. They had a pretty big moat that they let vscode eat away at. I don’t think they saw any of this coming and are struggling to make sense of it.

dist-epoch 10mo ago
They are trying now to create an agent-first IDE. I think they are too big to move on this. https://blog.jetbrains.com/fleet/2025/12/the-future-of-fleet/ https://blog.jetbrains.com/fleet/2025/12/the-future-of-fleet...
- edelhans 10mo ago
  They just announced the end of their fleet editor
  - dist-epoch 10mo ago
    Yeah, and that they are pivoting it to an agent first editor.
    - HyprMusic 10mo ago
      https://air.dev/ https://air.dev/ provides more info, for anyone who's intrigued.
      - wiseowise 10mo ago
        After fleet fiasco? No thanks.
        reactordev 10mo ago
        I heard really good things about Zed, lol. I’m with you. I canceled my jetbrains subscription a couple years ago and I have no intention of returning. They have been superseded and are no longer a relevant company. AI has made them obsolete. Atlassian is next…
- reactordev 10mo ago
  >Over time, we learned that having two general-purpose IDE families created confusion and diluted our focus. And not the dozens of others you have? Do you not consider them also separate families? Yeah, they completely didn’t see any of this coming.
  - dagmx 10mo ago
    All the other IDEs they have are variants of IDEA. Fleet is a completely different codebase. So they’re correct, there’s only two families of IDEs.
    - oblio 10mo ago
      Isn't Fleet in preview 5 years later?
      - Weryj 10mo ago
        Fleet is cancelled, see the link above
        oblio 10mo ago
        Kind of figures, they were trying to compete with VS Code but they were not even able to create a stable release in all that time.
        dagmx 10mo ago
        That’s a bit of an uncharitable take. Fleet was very stable to use , it just never successfully turned into a product which they address in their link as well why that happened
        oblio 10mo ago
        It never left the preview stage, so they did not feel confident calling it stable enough for their users and I don't use preview versions for products where there are already 10 production grade competitors. Uncharitable but yeah, reality isn't always charitable.
- wiseowise 10mo ago
  So many salty fools who bought into “professional|enterprise grade ide” cool aid. Glad to see upstarts eating their lunch, they’ve been complacent for far too long.
stusmall 10mo ago
I've been a massive JetBrains fanboy for a bit over a decade. I finally let my subscription lapse this month. It isn't so much about AI integrations but overall competitors have caught up. The rise of LSP and DAP did a lot to shrink their competitive advantage
jayd16 10mo ago
Where are you getting the concept of ego and hubris from? I don't really see much personification of JB's public facing identity.

dist-epoch 10mo ago

They are trying now to create an agent-first IDE. I think they are too big to move on this. https://blog.jetbrains.com/fleet/2025/12/the-future-of-fleet/ https://blog.jetbrains.com/fleet/2025/12/the-future-of-fleet...

edelhans 10mo ago
They just announced the end of their fleet editor
- dist-epoch 10mo ago
  Yeah, and that they are pivoting it to an agent first editor.
  - HyprMusic 10mo ago
    https://air.dev/ https://air.dev/ provides more info, for anyone who's intrigued.
    - wiseowise 10mo ago
      After fleet fiasco? No thanks.
      - reactordev 10mo ago
        I heard really good things about Zed, lol. I’m with you. I canceled my jetbrains subscription a couple years ago and I have no intention of returning. They have been superseded and are no longer a relevant company. AI has made them obsolete. Atlassian is next…
reactordev 10mo ago
>Over time, we learned that having two general-purpose IDE families created confusion and diluted our focus. And not the dozens of others you have? Do you not consider them also separate families? Yeah, they completely didn’t see any of this coming.
- dagmx 10mo ago
  All the other IDEs they have are variants of IDEA. Fleet is a completely different codebase. So they’re correct, there’s only two families of IDEs.
  - oblio 10mo ago
    Isn't Fleet in preview 5 years later?
    - Weryj 10mo ago
      Fleet is cancelled, see the link above
      - oblio 10mo ago
        Kind of figures, they were trying to compete with VS Code but they were not even able to create a stable release in all that time.
        dagmx 10mo ago
        That’s a bit of an uncharitable take. Fleet was very stable to use , it just never successfully turned into a product which they address in their link as well why that happened
        oblio 10mo ago
        It never left the preview stage, so they did not feel confident calling it stable enough for their users and I don't use preview versions for products where there are already 10 production grade competitors. Uncharitable but yeah, reality isn't always charitable.
wiseowise 10mo ago
So many salty fools who bought into “professional|enterprise grade ide” cool aid. Glad to see upstarts eating their lunch, they’ve been complacent for far too long.

stusmall 10mo ago

I've been a massive JetBrains fanboy for a bit over a decade. I finally let my subscription lapse this month. It isn't so much about AI integrations but overall competitors have caught up. The rise of LSP and DAP did a lot to shrink their competitive advantage

jayd16 10mo ago

Where are you getting the concept of ego and hubris from? I don't really see much personification of JB's public facing identity.