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Why? China is the alternative. How many countries has China waged war against, toppled democratic governments, established puppet março-states and invaded sinc
by lbrito 10mo ago
Why?
China is the alternative. How many countries has China waged war against, toppled democratic governments, established puppet março-states and invaded since 1949?
- throw-the-towel 10mo agoChina also didn't have the ability to do most of that until very recently.
- meowface 10mo agoIt could be the case that they become the hegemon and don't ever conquer anyone besides Taiwan and it still sucks due to how they treat ~20% of the Earth's population (their own citizens). A liberal, democratic China becoming the hegemon is very possibly better than the status quo (especially under Trump and with the surge of far-right mainstreaming in the US), but China as it is now cannot be trusted to be a good steward of a hypothetical Pax Sinica, just as Trumpist America cannot be trusted.
- ku-man 10mo ago[dead]
- swagasaurus-rex 10mo agoKorea 1950, Tibet 1951, Vietnam 1979 (yes, China invaded Vietnam after USA withdrew). China also has had border skirmishes with Burma, India, USSR.
- consumer451 10mo agoCurrently invading the Philippines, using "salami tactics."
- lbrito 10mo agoYes, I'm aware. There are literally thousands of years of sino-korean wars, so its hard to pin that blame on a specific government. Tibet is a more straightforward case of imperial expansionism from China, although it is also a centuries-old one, dating from Qing dynasty (1700s). The border skirmishes with India stem from mutual dissatisfaction with old British imperial border lines, which both governments disagree with. Now compare that with the USA list. China's list is, to say the least, much more lightweight, straightforward and understandable. I'd go with that list any day, and most of the world would too.
- kasey_junk 10mo agoHow many Chinese people did they kill via governmental policies in that time?