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In the ancient Greek colony of Locri, any who proposed a new law would do so with a rope around their neck, if the law was voted down, they would get hanged. F
by Zealotux 10mo ago
In the ancient Greek colony of Locri, any who proposed a new law would do so with a rope around their neck, if the law was voted down, they would get hanged.
Food for thought.
- kgwxd 10mo agoI don't think that system would have the desired results in a world where most people have already voted to hang themselves.
- simonebrunozzi 10mo agoZaleucus [0] from Locri wrote the first law system in the 7th century BC. Might be connected to what you have shared. Today's Locri is in Calabria, a region in Italy that many consider infested with mafia-like organizations, which is of course sad, but also ironic. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaleucus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaleucus
- quotemstr 10mo agoOnce social trust (or assibiyah, to use Ibn Khandun's term) in a region collapses, it often returns slowly or not at all. Sadly common pattern in history. I think one could plausibly argue that in this way, Calabria never recovered from the collapse of antiquity, the Gothic wars, and generations spent as a Christian-Muslim war zone.
- zen928 10mo agoIntentionally misinformed citizens continued to charge the streets demanding "essential services" like barber shops need to be reopened and to intentionally dismantle and resist against all government protections on public safety during the pandemic (like wearing a mask during an active spreading event), literally while their grandparents and relatives slowly and painfully died on respirators in hospitals largely agreeing with the same notion of covid prevention measures being "pointless". They then attacked the institutions that provided either medical treatments or provided assistance, and continue to promote that culture. Lemmings to a cause they dont understand for a message they know is false. That is to say, there's always someone ready to make zealots die for a cause. IMO, that change would only shift in favor of the most radical extremists who see human life as expendable rather than cause anyone in power to think twice about pushing their ideologies onto masses.
- LtWorf 10mo agoWhen governments push out clearly nonsensical regulations, like you must go to the office even if you can work from home, but you cannot go hiking, yes people do tend to get mad.
- Dylan16807 10mo agoI saw a couple unreasonable restrictions like that in some places. It's not what caused the vast majority of complaints.
- LtWorf 10mo agoYes yes everyone except you is stupid.
- Dylan16807 10mo agoYou're making some big jumps in guessing my thoughts and those jumps are wrong.
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- fylo 10mo agoMasks and protocols around them were largely just theatre though. Only very expensive n95 or better type masks, which were properly fitted and handled would actually provide any sort of protection from covid. Even the eventual proponents of masks initially were against the idea as in many ways many of the responses to covid were directed politically, not practically.
- Dylan16807 10mo agoThe proper masks are not expensive and an imperfect fit still helps a lot.
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- 36890752189743 10mo agoWon't someone think of the regime? :(
- SamDc73 10mo agoU.S. lawmaking has a built-in ratchet effect: passing new laws is politically easier than repealing old ones. An easy way to solve this is all laws should have an expiration date by default.
- HNisCIS 10mo agoWell, Congress renewed the Patriot act so I don't have a lot of faith. Personally I'm starting to think that all of Congress, including aides, should get cycled out all at once periodically so that their internal culture of hating the masses gets broken.
- SamDc73 10mo agoFair point. The USA PATRIOT Act shouldn’t have existed in the first place. But one of its most controversial parts (Section 215) did expire in 2020 (it was barely going to make it, though). But you’re right overall: most of the Act’s powers were repeatedly renewed or re-created under other laws. Sunset clauses aren’t a silver bullet, but they do occasionally stop or slow things that would otherwise become permanent.
- Obscurity4340 10mo agoExcellent idea (re:mandatory expiration dates/sunset clauses)
- m000 10mo agoBut then how would all these lawyers be able to charge you $500/hour?