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I would just push them all out of the way with my fire truck, I mean one fire truck could probably clear 6-8 Waymos at a time, right?
by kylehotchkiss 10mo ago
I would just push them all out of the way with my fire truck, I mean one fire truck could probably clear 6-8 Waymos at a time, right?
- malfist 10mo agoFire trucks are very expensive to be playing bumper cars with
- w-ll 10mo agoTrue, but in a 'Big One' event i dont think we would care.
- moregrist 10mo agoYou care because it takes valuable time to move things out of the way and in an emergency time is often the one resource you don’t have.
- estebank 10mo agoIn an emergency, if the only options are taking time moving things out of the way or not being able to move, you move things out of the way.
- MBCook 10mo agoGP’s point is that’s a false dichotomy. Yes that’s the correct decision when those are the only options, like if a car has stalled or the driver just got out and ran away. In this case there’s a third option: the computer that’s still perfectly functional should have been able to get out of the way on its own. And legally all drivers are required to. I assume that applies to robots as well, if it doesn’t it absolutely should.
- quesera 10mo agoModern fire trucks, and police cars usually, are built to be able to push vehicles out of the way. It's a very common need. (Not an argument against Waymo doing better in this situation though!)
- wolrah 10mo ago> Modern fire trucks, and police cars usually, are built to be able to push vehicles out of the way. Not so much police cars, anymore. Back in the time of the B-Body Caprice and the Crown Vic, sure. These days with the exception of the Tahoe the most common police vehicles are all unibody platforms. Charger, Durango, Explorer, Taurus, and the rare Australian Caprice You can still bolt a push bumper to them and most departments do, but they have to be used with a lot more caution and a lot less aggression to avoid damaging the vehicle than in the days of body-on-frame sedans. Fire trucks on the other hand, yeah they're basically the opposite in that there might be a couple of Explorers or Durangos in the fleet but most everything else is a medium duty truck or a custom chassis specifically for fire service.
- blibble 10mo agoif google's property is blocking the road, google can pay for the damage
- philipallstar 10mo agoAs long as you're happy that if your property ever blocks the road, you will pay for the damage too.
- blibble 10mo agoabsolutely don't be a dick, don't block the road
- solid_fuel 10mo ago> As long as you're happy that if your property ever blocks the road, you will pay for the damage too. Pretty sure that's always the expectation? It's typical to tow illegally parked cars, smash windows to run hoses through cars blocking hydrants, etc. The only unusual thing here would be holding a corporation to account the way we hold individuals to account.
- philipallstar 10mo agoA broken down car isn't illegally parked.
- catlikesshrimp 10mo agoA broken down car is also towed when needed.
- philipallstar 10mo agoYes, to get it fixed.
- potato3732842 10mo ago
- kylehotchkiss 10mo agoThey have massive steel bumpers, pushing them away slowly seems mostly harmless (not at maximum velocity lol)
- uqual 10mo agoAlthough it would be amusing for them to do it at high velocity if the cars (and surrounding cars if any) were "dead heading" or had no humans in them for other reasons (perhaps because the humans had fled the vehicles upon seeing the fire truck headed their way!).
- tjwebbnorfolk 10mo agoIf we reach the point of needing to forcicbly move mass numbers of cars off the road for fire trucks, that's a dire situation where routine cost/benefit analysis has already gone out the window.
- potato3732842 10mo agoYou're not gonna do anything more than cosmetic to the chrome bumper on a truck by pushing cars at low speed.