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Germany has a big alt-rising in the form of AFD, and consequently, they do track social media heavily. There is also a non-insignificant fundamentalist Muslim p
by ActorNightly 10mo ago
Germany has a big alt-rising in the form of AFD, and consequently, they do track social media heavily. There is also a non-insignificant fundamentalist Muslim population.
For things like troll posts or just general hate speech, most of the time the police visit your house and ask you questions and give you a stern warning. And remember, police in EU isn't like police in US - when you get visited by police in EU, you aren't afraid that you are going to get shot up or thrown on the ground and tazed if you did nothing wrong.
In extreme cases where you are calling for things like beheading, yea they def arrest for that.
Source: close friend that lives in Germanty works for a company that does business with German government. I don't know first hand but he is pretty aware of the policics in EU and I have no reason to believe he would be exaggerating.
On anther note, Germany policing is quite progressive actually. For example, if you run, you don't get a charge for evading/eluding - its actually legal to run from police because "desire for freedom is a human right".
- orwin 10mo agoYeah, it's mostly the same in France, unless you 'run' with a motorised vehicle. That will land you in a lot of trouble. We still have more dying in jail or during arrest per capita than any other country in Europe, but we're still orders of magnitude behind the US.
- BrandoElFollito 10mo agoThe relationship to police is not bad in France. For the everyday Joe there are zero concerns. You see people negotiating with police when pulled over, if this is in the typical "latin" way it is fair game. I was taught as a kid to always go to police when in trouble. Taught the same to my kids. Now, I live west of Paris which means that right from the start the relationship is better. In other places this may need very different.
- defrost 10mo agoMuch like Australia really: In France, discriminatory identity checks are a striking illustration of this. Police disproportionately target certain citizens on the basis of their skin color or presumed origin, particularly young people perceived to be Black or Arab, including children. These abusive controls can often lead to more serious police violence, including with fatal outcomes. ~ https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/10/17/ethnic-profiling-french-police-urgent-action-needed https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/10/17/ethnic-profiling-french-... ~ https://humanrights.gov.au/know-your-rights/rights-of-individuals/race-discrimination/guides,-tools-and-resources/questions-and-context/if-i-am-stopped-by-police,-can-i-be-sure-it-is-not-because-of-my-race https://humanrights.gov.au/know-your-rights/rights-of-indivi...
- orwin 10mo agoI've worked with ANAS and the SNIP when I was a youth camp counselor, the sentiment isn't shared. Civilians are basically 'the others' and are to be avoided and met with suspicion first. And that's the most liberal police syndicate.
- BrandoElFollito 10mo agoYMMV. As I mentioned this will depend on the place. In my city the police approaches you smiling. They are part of all events so they are well known. But again it is in a nice cosy city. You mention "camp counselor" - maybe it was more tense there?
- bibimsz 10mo ago> "big alt-rising in the form of AFD, and consequently, they do track social media heavily. There is also a non-insignificant fundamentalist Muslim population" These two are highly related
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- dvtkrlbs 10mo agoThey are not though alt-right movements all work on shifting the blame. They always find a scapegoat (jewish people in WW2) for material conditions instead of attacking the root causes.
- Obscurity4340 10mo agoThat last bit is fascinating. Never thought about it that way