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Some engineers don't dismiss LLMs. They dismiss the religion like hype machine. You want to market to engineers, stick to provable statements. And address som
by nottorp 11mo ago
Some engineers don't dismiss LLMs.
They dismiss the religion like hype machine.
You want to market to engineers, stick to provable statements. And address some of their concerns. With something other than "AI is evolving constantly, all your problems will be solved in 6 months, just keep paying us."
Oh by the way, what is the OP trying to sell with these FOMO tactics? Yet another ChatGPT frontend?
- jennyholzer2 11mo ago[flagged]
- nottorp 11mo agoNah, LLMs have fixed search. For now. I use them daily for that. Fully expect them to include youtube levels of advertising in 1-2 years though. Just to compensate for the results being somewhat not spammy.
- jennyholzer2 11mo ago[flagged]
- nottorp 11mo agoThe other option is traditional search engines, which are chock full of spam. Or perhaps Kagi, but apparently they only give you the tools to exclude the content farms, they don't exclude them themselves.
- duskdozer 11mo agoIt does require excluding things yourself, but I've had a lot of success with uBlacklist. Some of the spam sites all have certain common characteristics that you can specifically search for to come up with a full search result of spam domains
- falcor84 11mo agoWhy? I'm happy to spend VC money while they're offering it. If and when they stop giving me an offering that I'm satisfied with, I'll stop using it.
- jennyholzer2 11mo ago"i'm happy to smoke crack while the dealer is paying for it"
- cons0le 11mo agoI think we should label devs overreliant on AI as "Engineers who dismiss themselves"
- falcor84 11mo agoI'll take that, but don't see how it's so different from the intent I've always had of "automating myself out of the job". When I want to do "engineering", I can always spin up Factorio or Turing Complete. But for the rest of the time, I care about the result rather than the process. For example, before starting to implement a tool, I'll always first search online for whether there is already a good tool that would address my need, and if so, I'll generally utilize that.
- nottorp 11mo agoThe nondeterminism is what makes LLMs different. You download a tool written by a human, you can reasonably expect that it does what the author claims it does. And more, you can reasonably expect that if it fails it will fail in the same way in the same conditions.
- DonHopkins 11mo agoCracktorio! ;) I also love Dyson Sphere Program. I wrote some Turing Machine programs back in my Philosophy of Computer Science class during the 80's, but since then my Turing Machine programming skills have atrophied, and I let LLMs write them for me now.
- janice1999 11mo agoPersonally I prefer "Artificially Intelligent engineers" or "Engineers who outsource intelligence".
- mholm 11mo agoIs it possible you're not the target audience if you are aware that LLMs are impressive and useful? Regardless of the inane hype and bubble around them.
- squidbeak 11mo agoPerhaps in that case the critics should bend their ire on the marketing departments, rather than trashing the tech? Really though, the potential in this tech is unknown at this point. The measures we have suggest there's no slowdown in progress, and it isn't unreasonable for any enthusiast or policy maker to speculate about where it could go, or how we might need to adjust our societies around it.
- nottorp 11mo ago> it isn't unreasonable for any enthusiast or policy maker to speculate about where it could go What is posted to HN daily is beyond speculation. I suppose a psychologist has a term for what it is, I don't. Edit: well, guess what? I asked an "AI": Psychological Drivers of AI Hype: Term | Driver | Resulting Behavior -----------------------|-----------------------|------------------------------ ELIZA Effect | Symbolic projection | Treating a script like a person. Automation Bias | Cognitive offloading | Trusting AI over your own eyes. Techno-Optimism | Confirmation bias | Ignoring risks for "progress." Interface Familiarity | Fluency heuristic | Friendly UI = "Smart" system. By the way, the text formatting is done by the "AI" as well. Asked it to make the table look like a table on HN specifically.
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- hulitu 11mo ago> You want to market to engineers, stick to provable statements. And that's where the "AI" is lacking. "AI can write a testcase". Can it write a _correct_ test case (i.e. one that i only have to review, like i review my colleague work) ? "AI can write requirements". Now, that i'm still waiting to see.
- nottorp 11mo ago> Can it write a _correct_ test case And is the test case useful for something? On non textbook code?
- jennyholzer2 11mo ago[flagged]