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Unfortunately your joke has wooshed over quite a few heads but what you say is true. The shell should be one of the most reliable parts of your operating system

Unfortunately your joke has wooshed over quite a few heads but what you say is true. The shell should be one of the most reliable parts of your operating system. Why on earth would you NOT trust the primary interface of your OS? Makes no sense.

wmf 10mo ago
The shell itself may be reliable but shell scripts are notorious for security issues.
IshKebab 10mo ago
I'm not sure I follow you but it wasn't a joke. Shell scripts are notoriously error-prone. I absolutely do not trust shell script authors to get everything right. Also the shell isn't even "the primary interface of your OS". For Linux that's the Linux ABI, or arguably libc. Unless you meant "human interface", in which case also no - KDE is the primary interface of my OS.
- MisterTea 10mo ago
  > I'm not sure I follow you but it wasn't a joke. Shell scripts are notoriously error-prone. I absolutely do not trust shell script authors to get everything right. This is an extremely naive take as are the rest of your comments. Any language in the wrong hands is error prone.
  - IshKebab 10mo ago
    > Any language in the wrong hands is error prone. Talk about naive!
    - linksnapzz 10mo ago
      Feel free to implement system utilities in whichever language you feel will completely eliminate the possibility of bugs. I wait with bated breath.
      - IshKebab 10mo ago
        "error-prone" means bugs are more likely than the alternatives. It doesn't mean that the alternatives completely eliminate the possibility of bugs. Come on.
        linksnapzz 10mo ago
        I wonder what the tally is for "things posted to HN that'll replace bash/ksh/zsh in every respect REAL Soon Now". It's a genre of post unto itself.
        IshKebab 10mo ago
        What language is Systemd written in? I'm pretty sure it's not Bash.
        linksnapzz 10mo ago
        I've never been able to use systemd as a command interpreter.
        IshKebab 10mo ago
        An init system doesn't need to be a command interpreter. Why are you being so obtuse?
        linksnapzz 10mo ago
        It doesn't need to be, but there are some advantages in being able to have system startup scripts in the same language that you do one-liners in at the terminal.

wmf 10mo ago

The shell itself may be reliable but shell scripts are notorious for security issues.

IshKebab 10mo ago

I'm not sure I follow you but it wasn't a joke. Shell scripts are notoriously error-prone. I absolutely do not trust shell script authors to get everything right. Also the shell isn't even "the primary interface of your OS". For Linux that's the Linux ABI, or arguably libc. Unless you meant "human interface", in which case also no - KDE is the primary interface of my OS.

MisterTea 10mo ago
> I'm not sure I follow you but it wasn't a joke. Shell scripts are notoriously error-prone. I absolutely do not trust shell script authors to get everything right. This is an extremely naive take as are the rest of your comments. Any language in the wrong hands is error prone.
- IshKebab 10mo ago
  > Any language in the wrong hands is error prone. Talk about naive!
  - linksnapzz 10mo ago
    Feel free to implement system utilities in whichever language you feel will completely eliminate the possibility of bugs. I wait with bated breath.
    - IshKebab 10mo ago
      "error-prone" means bugs are more likely than the alternatives. It doesn't mean that the alternatives completely eliminate the possibility of bugs. Come on.
      - linksnapzz 10mo ago
        I wonder what the tally is for "things posted to HN that'll replace bash/ksh/zsh in every respect REAL Soon Now". It's a genre of post unto itself.
        IshKebab 10mo ago
        What language is Systemd written in? I'm pretty sure it's not Bash.
        linksnapzz 10mo ago
        I've never been able to use systemd as a command interpreter.
        IshKebab 10mo ago
        An init system doesn't need to be a command interpreter. Why are you being so obtuse?
        linksnapzz 10mo ago
        It doesn't need to be, but there are some advantages in being able to have system startup scripts in the same language that you do one-liners in at the terminal.