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I’d happily pay $100 a year for Firefox WITH an adblocker as long as part of the money is put towards ongoing internet freedom and preventing attestation

arealaccount 10mo ago
Orion browser is a thing
- saubeidl 10mo ago
  A closed source thing.
- orphea 10mo ago
  There are operating systems other than macOS.
  - handedness 10mo ago
    https://help.kagi.com/orion/faq/faq.html#other_os_support https://help.kagi.com/orion/faq/faq.html#other_os_support
    - orphea 10mo ago
      I'm aware. What does it change?
      - handedness 10mo ago
        It directly addresses your complaint, a confusing complaint to make if you were already aware that Linux and Windows versions are coming soon. Unless, of course, you're holding out for, I don't know, a BeOS version.
        orphea 10mo ago
        I just don't think one can seriously say "Orion browser is a thing" if it is definitely not a thing for 95% desktops out there (the exact % may be different depending on the source of data, etc.). And Windows (around 70% of the market share) version is not expected until late 2026.
rchaud 10mo ago
As with all the comments about "I'd pay X dollars to not be the product", it's been shown over and over again that paying money is not going to void corporate desire to simply double dip by raising prices while also showing ads.
- glenstein 10mo ago
  Or for a similar point, it's been shown over and over that attempting to crowdsource the revenue is a staggeringly unrealistic response with no real world precedent in the history either of browsers or online crowdsourced funding. You would think that would matter to people who point to that as a possible panacea. Actual attempts to get users to pay for the browser itself, like what Opera did, simply didn't work and led to the insolvency of the browser and having to sell it off to someone harvesting its users as data.
  - homebrewer 10mo ago
    You might want to look up Thunderbird crowd funding over the past couple of years. Spoiler: it's been very successful.
    - glenstein 10mo ago
      Check Firefox's annual budget compared to Thunderbird's annual budget and get back to me.

arealaccount 10mo ago

Orion browser is a thing

saubeidl 10mo ago
A closed source thing.
orphea 10mo ago
There are operating systems other than macOS.
- handedness 10mo ago
  https://help.kagi.com/orion/faq/faq.html#other_os_support https://help.kagi.com/orion/faq/faq.html#other_os_support
  - orphea 10mo ago
    I'm aware. What does it change?
    - handedness 10mo ago
      It directly addresses your complaint, a confusing complaint to make if you were already aware that Linux and Windows versions are coming soon. Unless, of course, you're holding out for, I don't know, a BeOS version.
      - orphea 10mo ago
        I just don't think one can seriously say "Orion browser is a thing" if it is definitely not a thing for 95% desktops out there (the exact % may be different depending on the source of data, etc.). And Windows (around 70% of the market share) version is not expected until late 2026.

rchaud 10mo ago

As with all the comments about "I'd pay X dollars to not be the product", it's been shown over and over again that paying money is not going to void corporate desire to simply double dip by raising prices while also showing ads.

glenstein 10mo ago
Or for a similar point, it's been shown over and over that attempting to crowdsource the revenue is a staggeringly unrealistic response with no real world precedent in the history either of browsers or online crowdsourced funding. You would think that would matter to people who point to that as a possible panacea. Actual attempts to get users to pay for the browser itself, like what Opera did, simply didn't work and led to the insolvency of the browser and having to sell it off to someone harvesting its users as data.
- homebrewer 10mo ago
  You might want to look up Thunderbird crowd funding over the past couple of years. Spoiler: it's been very successful.
  - glenstein 10mo ago
    Check Firefox's annual budget compared to Thunderbird's annual budget and get back to me.