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lots of people seem to trust apple
by aydyn 10mo ago
lots of people seem to trust apple
- philipallstar 10mo agoApple has actually proven itself over a long period of time on this issue. Maybe Mozilla has as well (do they encrypt telemetry logs etc for people with a Mozilla login?) but I haven't heard so much about that.
- rurban 10mo agoDid you really forgot about Snowden's Apple slide? Also their phones are routinely mirrored at the border. Just to support the unconstitutional government agenda of policing thoughts and speech.
- JumpCrisscross 10mo ago> Did you really forgot about Snowden's Apple slide? Was Apple coöperating or were they hacked? (I remember the smiley face for Gmail. Google, in that case, was hacked.)
- sneak 10mo agoWrong. Apple explicitly preserves a backdoor in the e2ee of iMessage for the USG.
- fsflover 10mo agohttps://sneak.berlin/20231005/apple-operating-system-surveillance/ https://sneak.berlin/20231005/apple-operating-system-surveil...
- vaylian 10mo agoMarketing can do a lot to create trust. It's not all or nothing. Depending on your threat model, Apple's services might be fine. But I guess most people don't think enough about the implications of storing many years worth of data at a US company like Apple.
- Tepix 10mo agoYes but Apple is also avoiding collecting a huge amount of data, e.g. by doing things on-device.
- fsflover 10mo agohttps://appleinsider.com/articles/24/04/10/apple-makes-it-really-hard-for-users-to-completely-stop-it-from-collecting-data https://appleinsider.com/articles/24/04/10/apple-makes-it-re... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43047952 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43047952 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42014588 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42014588 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34299433 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34299433
- reactordev 10mo agoOk, keep telling yourself that as you can’t remove iCloud…