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Joseph Gordon-Levitt wonders why AI companies don't have to 'follow any laws'

40 points by alexgotoi 10mo ago

omt123 10mo ago
It's a good question, but please no "think of the children" argument which is being abused in other contexts.
bpiche 10mo ago
I didn't see any mention of this in the article, but: not sure if his wife is still on the board of OpenAI or not. He must have a unique and intimate view into some of this stuff and it's probably why they asked him about this stuff instead of another good actor. Big fan of his movies
- mindcrash 10mo ago
  She left when Altman got reinstated as CEO, after she and her fellow board member Helen Toner played a pivotal role in getting him fired. According to a interview she did later she told that she believes "the company (= with Altman as CEO) can not be trusted to govern itself" Looks like her husband shares that opinion.
mindcrash 10mo ago
Big Tech never had to. In fact, they can pretty much make their own: "Terms and conditions may apply" (also the name of a great classic documentary on the subject by the way). Also the fact that they have millions to bribe (or in friendlier terms "donate") their way out of anything, and have a network of very powerful friends and allies does not help at all. Regulation should have started when the likes of Microsoft and Google started to become omnipotent and the big players in the Valley were not as powerful and influential as they are today. Now it's probably way too late.
- sans_souse 10mo ago
  Google + Government = Goovernment
  - saltcured 10mo ago
    Except it is pronounced as in Hoover?
    - sans_souse 10mo ago
      maybe it's Googlememt
- misswaterfairy 10mo ago
  > Now it's probably way too late. If/when the AI bubble bursts, and the worlds economies crash, we might have a chance then.
- danudey 10mo ago
  The tech company playbook: 1. Defy the law (and ethics) so that you can grow rapidly without the constraint of regulations, and provide things cheaper without the overhead of compliance 2. Get so ubiquitous as a result that if government starts trying to regulate you they look like the bad guys 3. Hire lobbyists to write laws in your favor.
- WhyOhWhyQ 10mo ago
  We need a Trumpian style Democrat. Then things might change for the better.
sfmike 10mo ago
You can use your eyes and rapidly "scan" troves of data as well to deep train your own personal model of self. You can observe and soak up ideas and iterate them as well. You can access any publicly facing data as well.
- add-sub-mul-div 10mo ago
  You can "throw" projectiles yourself so why do we have different laws about guns???
butlersean 10mo ago
Because Capital has captured the legislature.
maniacwhat 10mo ago
I wonder this about the massive increase in crawlers too. What happened to the computer misuse act? If I specifically state that my site is not to be crawled, via robots.txt and other mechanisms, why does continuously hammering it not count as illegitimate access? Do they need to breach some sign in / explicit t+c agreement for that to apply?

40 points by alexgotoi 10mo ago

omt123 10mo ago

It's a good question, but please no "think of the children" argument which is being abused in other contexts.

bpiche 10mo ago

I didn't see any mention of this in the article, but: not sure if his wife is still on the board of OpenAI or not. He must have a unique and intimate view into some of this stuff and it's probably why they asked him about this stuff instead of another good actor. Big fan of his movies

mindcrash 10mo ago
She left when Altman got reinstated as CEO, after she and her fellow board member Helen Toner played a pivotal role in getting him fired. According to a interview she did later she told that she believes "the company (= with Altman as CEO) can not be trusted to govern itself" Looks like her husband shares that opinion.

mindcrash 10mo ago

Big Tech never had to. In fact, they can pretty much make their own: "Terms and conditions may apply" (also the name of a great classic documentary on the subject by the way). Also the fact that they have millions to bribe (or in friendlier terms "donate") their way out of anything, and have a network of very powerful friends and allies does not help at all. Regulation should have started when the likes of Microsoft and Google started to become omnipotent and the big players in the Valley were not as powerful and influential as they are today. Now it's probably way too late.

sans_souse 10mo ago
Google + Government = Goovernment
- saltcured 10mo ago
  Except it is pronounced as in Hoover?
  - sans_souse 10mo ago
    maybe it's Googlememt
misswaterfairy 10mo ago
> Now it's probably way too late. If/when the AI bubble bursts, and the worlds economies crash, we might have a chance then.
danudey 10mo ago
The tech company playbook: 1. Defy the law (and ethics) so that you can grow rapidly without the constraint of regulations, and provide things cheaper without the overhead of compliance 2. Get so ubiquitous as a result that if government starts trying to regulate you they look like the bad guys 3. Hire lobbyists to write laws in your favor.
WhyOhWhyQ 10mo ago
We need a Trumpian style Democrat. Then things might change for the better.

sfmike 10mo ago

You can use your eyes and rapidly "scan" troves of data as well to deep train your own personal model of self. You can observe and soak up ideas and iterate them as well. You can access any publicly facing data as well.

add-sub-mul-div 10mo ago
You can "throw" projectiles yourself so why do we have different laws about guns???

butlersean 10mo ago

Because Capital has captured the legislature.

maniacwhat 10mo ago

I wonder this about the massive increase in crawlers too. What happened to the computer misuse act? If I specifically state that my site is not to be crawled, via robots.txt and other mechanisms, why does continuously hammering it not count as illegitimate access? Do they need to breach some sign in / explicit t+c agreement for that to apply?