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I’m glad it was blocked. Amazon gives law enforcement and ICE access to Ring camera footage. I have no doubt they’d eventually be letting cops spy inside our h
by DevX101 10mo ago
I’m glad it was blocked. Amazon gives law enforcement and ICE access to Ring camera footage. I have no doubt they’d eventually be letting cops spy inside our homes with these vacuum cleaners.
- Aurornis 10mo agoSo you’d prefer we send access to China? The comment above was pointing out that we blocked the acquisition that would have kept it in the country.
- AndrewKemendo 10mo agoWhat was the last time a Chinese person shot a US citizen?
- mattmaroon 10mo agoWhen was the last time you called a Chinese person to respond to a crime?
- AndrewKemendo 10mo agoIs that an option I’m not aware of? Do chinese police even carry firearms? edit: most don’t (https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-where-police-dont-carry-guns https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries...) So, given that, I would choose 100/100 times to deal with Chinese police over the US ICE/police murder squads if I had an option
- osiris970 10mo agoIn the U.S. you have free trials, in china you don't. What are you even talking about.
- mattmaroon 10mo agoHard to tell if someone is ignorant, not bright, or a CCP propaganda bot these days, but anyone who thinks the Chinese government is preferable to Amazon is one (at least) of those 3.
- AndrewKemendo 10mo agoI’ve been in court multiple times in my life including last month. I assure you there’s nothing free about them. The US has the largest prison population. China has plenty of problems but no country matches the depravity of the US “justice” system. Oh and that’s just the “formal” system, go to the south and you’ll see what it is.
- osiris970 10mo agoNo county matches the depravity of the U.S justice system? Other countries (china for example) have reeducation and labor camps. The us has its problems, and we should make things better! But it's incomparable, china actively imprisons political enemies, puts Muslims in "reeducation" camps, and has an iron fist on free expression.
- AndrewKemendo 10mo agoThe U.S. never made internment camps or had rampant government enforced slavery? Cmon
- osiris970 10mo agoDo they have them today? Wasn't my claim that they never did.
- AndrewKemendo 10mo agoYes https://eji.org/news/history-racial-injustice-prison-labor/ https://eji.org/news/history-racial-injustice-prison-labor/
- mattmaroon 10mo agoNo I was pointing out the absurdity of your comment. Cops are called to respond to violent crimes in America, Chinese people aren’t (presumably the response time would be far too long) so even if they were identical people, you’d expect a lot more police shootings than ones by Chinese citizens on the streets of America. The Chinese government may not need its law enforcement officers to carry guns (that’s great but that ship sailed here centuries ago) but they do send vans to harvest the organs of dissidents. And Google “persecution of Uyghurs”. They’re not a benign organization just because they shoot less, they just get shot at less.
- AndrewKemendo 10mo agoMy dude I spied on the Chinese for a decade I know more about the Chinese than you’ll ever understand Let me be clear, the Han don’t care about anybody but the Han that’s a fact. What they do to Tibetans, Uighurs and Muslims is horrible and those repressions shouldn’t exist. However they pale and comparison into the historical horrific conditions of nonstop genocide from 1650 more or less until present day if you include the global war on terror and the modern prisoner slave market encoded into the constitution (13th amendment) If you wanna go all the way back to the cultural revolution then absolutely fine but my argument there is going to be that’s no different than any of the culls that the United States or any other country have done. So they don’t get a pass but they aren’t worse Ultimately all you have to do is put up the “death toll” from state action both inside the nation and outside the nation to compare numbers. I’ll let you go ahead and do that exercise. No that the communist party has only ruled in China for less than 100 years but the same structure in America which has been completely depraved since the founders of the country were alive and actively shaping the politics of the US is coming up on 350 years ago. I mean for Christ sake we bought the southern United States from France in order to maintain our slave plantations as the French were getting rid of all their slave holdings worldwide. And then after the Civil War which was supposed to solve that ethical burden they completely gutted the entire process of reconstruction in order to prevent the full completion of it because the population was so racist they did not want to do it. As a black person in America I will tell you the slave population in jails is higher than it ever was anywhere else. If that’s not a disqualification on its own of any type of ethical foundations I don’t know what is.
- jpgvm 10mo agoWhat exactly can the Chinese government do to hurt you in your own home in America? Now think about what the American government can do to you.
- pornel 10mo agoMaybe instead of ad-hoc fear-driven interventions in the market when Chinese companies do too well (TikTok), US should have some general data protection laws, and not allow making surveillance devices that are locked-down and serve their corporate overlords? Amazon isn't on your side. They would have sold this access to China if they could make a buck on it.
- BeFlatXIII 10mo agoThe US government is more likely to be a threat to my personal freedom than the Chinese.
- osiris970 10mo agoThe emergence of a totalitarian state compared to a liberal democracy (for all it's faults and current state due to voters making bad choices) is so much worse for everyone in the world. Us included
- capr 10mo ago"due to voters making bad choices" ahahahahahaha
- BeFlatXIII 10mo agoPlease point to where the Chinese will have a direct negative impact to my life.
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- mikeg8 10mo agoYea! I totally trust corporations and government to always do the right thing and never abuse their powers!
- square_usual 10mo agoYes, citizen! What do you have to hide? You are not a criminal, are you?
- lenerdenator 10mo agoWell, were they handed a valid warrant asking for that footage?
- zug_zug 10mo agoMaybe there's a 3rd option... like encrypt the footage in a way that it can't be accessed en-masse without passwords? Like imagine if the US government gave a warrant to apple and said "Give us all iphone pictures from this area on this date"... they'd presumably say "We won't because we designed it so that we can't."