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Reportedly killed by their son, who had struggled with addiction: https://people.com/rob-reiner-wife-michele-were-killed-by-son-sources-11868856 https://people.
by benzible 10mo ago
Reportedly killed by their son, who had struggled with addiction: https://people.com/rob-reiner-wife-michele-were-killed-by-son-sources-11868856 https://people.com/rob-reiner-wife-michele-were-killed-by-so...
> In a 2016 interview with PEOPLE, Nick spoke about his years-long struggle with drug addiction, which began in his early teens and eventually left him living on the streets. He said he cycled in and out of rehab beginning around age 15, but as his addiction escalated, he drifted farther from home and spent significant stretches homeless in multiple states.
Rob Reiner directed a movie from a semi-autobiographical script his son co-wrote a few years ago. Hard to imagine many things worse than going through the pain of having a kid who seemed lost, getting him back, and then whatever must have been going on more recently that apparently led to this.
- enduser 10mo agoSo far AFAIK this claim isn’t repeated by any reputable publishers. E.g. Associated Press and LA Times both published 2.5 hours after PEOPLE and did not make this claim.
- benzible 10mo agoHere's another independent report: https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/rob-reiner-ldead-obituary-1235483876/ https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/rob-rei... Also, People is credible for this type of reporting. They're owned by a major company, IAC, and they don't have a history of reckless reporting or shady practices like catch-and-kill a la the National Enquirer. They likely just have sources that other news outlets don't.
- enduser 10mo ago[flagged]
- benzible 10mo ago> Thanks. I’ve been following unfolding coverage at https://particle.news/share/lRL-d https://particle.news/share/lRL-d but hadn’t caught the Rolling Stone article. I've been following it on my own news app as well, just didn't share a link to it as I thought it might be a bit ghoulish to piggyback on an unspeakably tragic celebrity death for a bit of self-promotion. Also, frustrating that people have somehow landed in a place where they either trust nothing or trust everything, with no ability to calibrate based on the actual track record and incentive structure of the source. People magazine attributing something to "multiple sources" in a case where they, and their billionaire owner Barry Diller, would face massive defamation liability if wrong is categorically different from, say, an anonymous Reddit post or a tweet. The LAPD "no person of interest" thing is also just standard procedure. Cops don't publicly name suspects until charges are filed. Totally normal that the official process is slower than journalism.
- eaurouge 10mo agoWhat’s your news app?
- mcny 10mo agotech meme and memeorandum for me
- benzible 10mo agoI don’t have a news app. That was a maybe too subtle bit of sarcasm aimed at the guy I was responding too who is apparently the creator of a news app called Particle, and who mentioned that he is following the news of these deaths on Particle without mentioning his connection to it. Update: Looks like the parent post has been flagged. I thought that might happen (or the author might edit it) which is why I quoted the original.
- pjc50 10mo agoWorse, people take "fairly reliable mainstream news source makes mistake or publishes propaganda op-ed" as a pretext to jump to sources that are way, way less reliable but publish things they want to hear.
- alsetmusic 10mo ago> The Independent reported 10 minutes ago that LAPD is still claiming no person of interest in this case. > > Hard to know what’s real and what’s gossip. I'm sorry, but it's People. I'm not a celeb gossip, but I don't recall them running bs headlines on this level. C'mon.
- TMWNN 10mo ago>they don't have a history of reckless reporting or shady practices like catch-and-kill a la the National Enquirer TIL that the 'National Enquirer' was the most reliable news source during the O. J. Simpson murder trial. According to a Harvard law professor who gave the media an overall failing grade, the 'Enquirer' was the only publication that thoroughly followed every rumor and talked to every witness. <https://np.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/6n1kz5/til_that_the_national_enquirer_was_the_most/ https://np.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/6n1kz5/til_th...>
- philistine 10mo agoThat was an eternity ago. They’re no longer worth anything in terms of reputation.
- Fricken 10mo agoThey were never worth anything in terms of reputation, hence the "TIL"
- pge 10mo agoThe Enquirer also broke the John Edwards (vice-presidential candidate) affair story well before mainstream media picked it up. That doesn't make up for the reckless and sometimes completely nutso stories they print, but it is a reminder that they aren't always wrong.
- sigwinch 10mo agoThat’s going a little far, I think. The Enquirer was mentioned during jury selection and not for facts. When the defense wanted to leak a story, they went to the New Yorker.
- nephihaha 10mo agoThe claim is that there was no sign of forced entry, implying whoever did it was already in the home.
- netsharc 10mo agoSpeaking of media, I found it really useless that before the names were published, the majority of news articles just said "78 and 68 year old persons found dead [RIP] at Rob Reiner's home", but I had to search for his and his wife's age to correlate that it's him and his wife. I think only 1 news article said, "authorities have not said the names, but those are the ages of Rob Reiner and his wife".
- oneeyedpigeon 10mo agoI've always found it weird that the police cannot name them, but they can give out clues, even clues that are, to all intents and purposes, naming them.
- byronic 10mo agoIn the interest of preserving anonymity, let's call him Rob R. No, er, wait, let's do R Reiner. There, that should do it
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- philistine 10mo agoThat's not what was happening there. They weren't hiding the identity, it's that they had not positively identified the victims. The cops talked to journalists very fast.
- rafram 10mo agoThey hadn't positively identified them, but they knew exactly how old they were? It seems much more likely that they had identified them, but they hadn't gone through the full set of procedures (notifying family members, etc.) that are required before officially releasing names.
- netsharc 10mo ago
- schmuckonwheels 10mo agoIn a remarkable coincidence, the Reiners' son has just been booked on suspicion of murder: https://www.nbclosangeles.com/investigations/director-rob-reiners-son-booked-on-suspicion-of-murder/3816086/ https://www.nbclosangeles.com/investigations/director-rob-re... Maybe the cops were reading People in between scarfing down donuts and chain-smoking Marlboros.
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- lucky_cloud 10mo agoYeah, give them PTSD - that should help.
- INTPenis 10mo agoPoorly worded by the person you replied to. I hope they meant that the military could give them the discipline and structure their parents were unable to. Of course it depends on what military we're talking here, considering the situation in the world today.
- lizardking 10mo agoThat's not what they meant
- lab14 10mo ago(tangent) for those of us who had close experiences with addiction in our families, it's so obvious why "give them money" or "give them homes to live in" isn't a solution to homelesness. A close family member owned 3 properties and still was living in the streets by choice because of his addiction which evolved into a full blown paranoid schizophrenia. He almost lost it all but he was forcefully commited into a mental institution and rehab saved his life.
- mbauman 10mo ago> "by choice because of" Goodness, that doesn't look like a choice to me.
- mistrial9 10mo agosorry for your situation but that description is inconsistent without medical insight perhaps more importantly, ascribing legal treatment for a class of people ("homeless") based on this particular case is also unwise, at the least
- amanaplanacanal 10mo agoJust realize your personal experience isn't generalizable. Surveys I've seen report that about a third of homeless have drug problems, which means that the other two thirds may very well benefit from "give them homes to live in".
- earlyreturns 10mo agoAs with any survey or most research really, it’s the sample the determines the finding. Homelessness is not easy to define precisely. Drug addiction, setting aside the fact that surveys are self reported, is a bit more cut and dried but from your response it’s not clear if alcohol is included, or drug history. Like if someone did some bad shrooms or had a bad acid trip and wound up homeless would that person be in the 2/3rds?
- hattmall 10mo agoWhat would a bad trip that makes you homeless look like? Like you burnt your house down or something. The number of people that became homeless due to a bad trip may be non-zero but it had to be really close. That's just not a realistic scenario.
- raffael_de 10mo ago> Hard to imagine many things worse than going through the pain of having a kid who seemed lost, getting him back, and then whatever must have been going on more recently that apparently led to this Also worth considering that Rob Reiner might have played his part in the roots of Nick's troubles ... after all Rob was his father and the drug problems started when he was still a child.
- pstuart 10mo agoAre you a parent? Do you understand the challenges of parenting that includes the fact that "controlling" your child is ultimately impossible? Yes, you can be attentive and engaged, ensure they're mentored and guided, are given discipline and instruction, etc. But they're still autonomous units that are going to do what the fuck they want to do. Of course there are cases of abuse that can damage a child but that should not be a base assumption in this case (his other children appear to be fine).
- raffael_de 10mo ago"Hungry Ghosts" (or "Scattered Minds") by Gabor Maté is a very thought provoking book and quite relevant to the subject.
- pstuart 10mo agoWe are not well-served by treating addiction as simply a matter of will-power and "character". This isn't to say that we don't all bear responsibility for our conduct as best we can, but sometimes it's way more than that. It's like accusing a schizophrenic of not trying hard enough to "be normal".