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or people could just start to realize that social media is junk food and stop eating it.

cindyllm 10mo ago
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delis-thumbs-7e 10mo ago
>or people could just start to realize that [A] is [B] and stop [C] it. Possible values for A = heroin, alcohol, tobacco, weed, porn, TV… B = addictive, causes cancer, has an effect on brain health, spreads HIV… C = using, consuming, eating, injecting… Seems that this “people realizing” does not seem to work with other highly addictive chemicals or electronic media, since healing oneself from addiction requires far more than just “realizing” it is bad for you and the society. Perhaps there is a reason why we limit by law the sale of tobacco, drugs, alcohol and other highly addictive substances.
- rjdj377dhabsn 10mo ago
  Or we could start treating people like adults and let them make their own decisions/mistakes.
  - lynx97 10mo ago
    Progressives will never let that happen.
    - mmooss 10mo ago
      In fact progressives are much more oriented toward freedom than others. They just don't think the powerful need much assistance and instead focus on the freedom of LGBTQ people to make their own decisions about gender and sexuality, the freedom of racial minorities to do what everyone else does, the freedom and opportunity of undocumented, unhoused, and addicted people. Freedom is the heart of progressivism. (I don't subscribe to any group, but HN usually does not understand and mischaracterizes progressivism.)
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      - hitekker 10mo ago
        Trumpists tell a similar story about themselves. "Freedom" for the few, ignorance & hate for the other. Rhetorical bumper stickers do feel good; they may even be, on some surface level, true. But they ring like lies to anyone who seen the deeper, realer and truer beliefs of the self-righteous.
- 0ckpuppet 10mo ago
  It doesn't have to work for everybody, just a critical mass that it doesn't rot the whole country. I can buy enough cigarettes,booze, and weed to run a party 24/7/365, so what are these "limits" you speak of? I don't party like that for the same reasons I quit eating taco kfc mcd's etc. They're still in business, but there will always be a few junkies.
  - scared_together 10mo ago
    In your jurisdiction, are there regulations and taxes on the sale of cigarettes and alcohol? And are there any comparable regulations on social media?
  - delis-thumbs-7e 10mo ago
    Can people considered underage, ie. children, buy these substances in your jurisdiction? Are there taxation, or limit when and where certain substances or media can he bought or consumed? If you can sell guns and porn in kindergarten, well yes, you live in a very very ”liberal” society - one that is a dystopian hellhole, that is. Unless there is something very wrong with you, you do not want to live in such a society either. Therefore we have laws, regulations, social norms and taxation to limit unwanted behaviour as well as to protect those in the most precarious position. We all know for instance how mental illness affects likelyhood of addiction, or how such a simple thing as _pain_ made legions of people opioid addicts across the USA. So no, it is not just few junkies that fail to realise.
mmooss 10mo ago
Have people stopped eating junk food yet?

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>or people could just start to realize that [A] is [B] and stop [C] it. Possible values for A = heroin, alcohol, tobacco, weed, porn, TV… B = addictive, causes cancer, has an effect on brain health, spreads HIV… C = using, consuming, eating, injecting… Seems that this “people realizing” does not seem to work with other highly addictive chemicals or electronic media, since healing oneself from addiction requires far more than just “realizing” it is bad for you and the society. Perhaps there is a reason why we limit by law the sale of tobacco, drugs, alcohol and other highly addictive substances.

rjdj377dhabsn 10mo ago
Or we could start treating people like adults and let them make their own decisions/mistakes.
- lynx97 10mo ago
  Progressives will never let that happen.
  - mmooss 10mo ago
    In fact progressives are much more oriented toward freedom than others. They just don't think the powerful need much assistance and instead focus on the freedom of LGBTQ people to make their own decisions about gender and sexuality, the freedom of racial minorities to do what everyone else does, the freedom and opportunity of undocumented, unhoused, and addicted people. Freedom is the heart of progressivism. (I don't subscribe to any group, but HN usually does not understand and mischaracterizes progressivism.)
    - deleted 10mo ago
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    - hitekker 10mo ago
      Trumpists tell a similar story about themselves. "Freedom" for the few, ignorance & hate for the other. Rhetorical bumper stickers do feel good; they may even be, on some surface level, true. But they ring like lies to anyone who seen the deeper, realer and truer beliefs of the self-righteous.
0ckpuppet 10mo ago
It doesn't have to work for everybody, just a critical mass that it doesn't rot the whole country. I can buy enough cigarettes,booze, and weed to run a party 24/7/365, so what are these "limits" you speak of? I don't party like that for the same reasons I quit eating taco kfc mcd's etc. They're still in business, but there will always be a few junkies.
- scared_together 10mo ago
  In your jurisdiction, are there regulations and taxes on the sale of cigarettes and alcohol? And are there any comparable regulations on social media?
- delis-thumbs-7e 10mo ago
  Can people considered underage, ie. children, buy these substances in your jurisdiction? Are there taxation, or limit when and where certain substances or media can he bought or consumed? If you can sell guns and porn in kindergarten, well yes, you live in a very very ”liberal” society - one that is a dystopian hellhole, that is. Unless there is something very wrong with you, you do not want to live in such a society either. Therefore we have laws, regulations, social norms and taxation to limit unwanted behaviour as well as to protect those in the most precarious position. We all know for instance how mental illness affects likelyhood of addiction, or how such a simple thing as _pain_ made legions of people opioid addicts across the USA. So no, it is not just few junkies that fail to realise.

mmooss 10mo ago

Have people stopped eating junk food yet?