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As always, it's the intent that matters. For the sake of argument, what if Amazon decided tomorrow that they would secure exclusive contracts with all food sup

As always, it's the intent that matters. For the sake of argument, what if Amazon decided tomorrow that they would secure exclusive contracts with all food suppliers and then hoard all the food to starve out the people they don't want to have it? Or at least, drive up the price of food so it becomes completely unaffordable? I know people can simply grow their own food so it's a bit different, but hopefully it gets the point across. It's anti-trust on an unprecedented level.

squigz 10mo ago
> I know people can simply grow their own food Small thing, but this is not simple or realistic at all. How does someone in an apartment grow enough food for their family?
- hodgehog11 10mo ago
  Yeah it would definitely still be a problem, but history shows that life finds a way. Even if everyone has to eat nothing but planted potatoes from any patch of grass that one can lay eyes on.
  - squigz 10mo ago
    What history has taught us is that life finds a way by staying together and each person having their function within society, only some of which is growing or producing food.
ikeashark 10mo ago
But OpenAI legitimately needs HBM. Amazon in this instance doesn't need food and is doing purely to create artificial scarcity. If OpenAI were to actually not use the HBM then it could mean something.
- doctorwho42 10mo ago
  "needs" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in your argument...
- hodgehog11 10mo ago
  That's the whole problem: it's unlikely that OpenAI will actually use all of that HBM. It seems probable that they are using it to create artificial scarcity for their competitors.
back_to_basics 10mo ago
"As always, it's the intent that matters." That's certainly not a universal Legal Standard. If I'm harmed, but you didn't "intend" to harm me, does that nullify my Claim? Hardly.
- hodgehog11 10mo ago
  IANAL, but yes, I believe it can nullify the claim. Bumping into someone on the sidewalk is only battery if the prosecution demonstrates intent to harm.
- unethical_ban 10mo ago
  Voluntary manslaughter, involuntary manslaughter, degrees of murder, hate crimes.
- lovich 10mo ago
  Lack of intent doesn’t mean your claim is nullified. “Intent matters” means it’s taken into account when deciding what damages were wrought

squigz 10mo ago

> I know people can simply grow their own food Small thing, but this is not simple or realistic at all. How does someone in an apartment grow enough food for their family?

hodgehog11 10mo ago
Yeah it would definitely still be a problem, but history shows that life finds a way. Even if everyone has to eat nothing but planted potatoes from any patch of grass that one can lay eyes on.
- squigz 10mo ago
  What history has taught us is that life finds a way by staying together and each person having their function within society, only some of which is growing or producing food.

ikeashark 10mo ago

But OpenAI legitimately needs HBM. Amazon in this instance doesn't need food and is doing purely to create artificial scarcity. If OpenAI were to actually not use the HBM then it could mean something.

doctorwho42 10mo ago
"needs" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in your argument...
hodgehog11 10mo ago
That's the whole problem: it's unlikely that OpenAI will actually use all of that HBM. It seems probable that they are using it to create artificial scarcity for their competitors.

back_to_basics 10mo ago

"As always, it's the intent that matters." That's certainly not a universal Legal Standard. If I'm harmed, but you didn't "intend" to harm me, does that nullify my Claim? Hardly.

hodgehog11 10mo ago
IANAL, but yes, I believe it can nullify the claim. Bumping into someone on the sidewalk is only battery if the prosecution demonstrates intent to harm.
unethical_ban 10mo ago
Voluntary manslaughter, involuntary manslaughter, degrees of murder, hate crimes.
lovich 10mo ago
Lack of intent doesn’t mean your claim is nullified. “Intent matters” means it’s taken into account when deciding what damages were wrought