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Browsing history? Search history? Age? Also 'product interaction' is an euphemism to say "if you're sick, we'll sell this information for around 80€" (I think

by orwin 11mo ago

Browsing history? Search history? Age? Also 'product interaction' is an euphemism to say "if you're sick, we'll sell this information for around 80€" (I think it's close to 200$ for Americans but I don't have any contact in this industry overseas). If you have a cancer and suddenly you see an increase in ads for pseudo-medicine and other scams whose only goal is to extract all the money you have left, and if lucky, your famil's money too, that's from 'product interaction'.

raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
So exactly how do you suppose they sync your browsing history and bookmarks between devices if they don’t store the information? And your browsing history is e2e encrypted by keys on your device. Apple doesn’t have access to your browsing history. You can give Apple any age you want to. It’s not like it checks. And I have no idea about the other topics you are going off on and what they have to do with Apple..
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- chrz 11mo ago
  why would i want to sync everything
  - raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
    Why would someone want to sync bookmarks, browsing history etc between their phone, their iPad and their computer? Chrome and Firefox do the same.
    - herewulf 11mo ago
      Firefox only does this if you set it up that way. It's in no way obligatory. That is a far cry from Apple and Google.
      - raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
        And you can disable bookmark syncing for both Google and Safari. But what privacy threat are you trying to avoid by not having your bookmarks and history synced in an E2E manner where Apple can’t see either?
- snoman 11mo ago
  Are trying to say it’s not possible to write terms that give them the ability to sync your history without also letting them mine and sell all the insights from it?
  - raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
    From a technical level, exactly how is Apple mining your browsing history and bookmarks if they are end to end encrypted and they don’t have access to it?
0cf8612b2e1e 11mo ago
I am so curious to learn more about this. Are there any extensive write ups of the mechanics of identification, price points, whatever? Or is it all insider baseball because it is distasteful? Many tens to hundreds of dollars for that single datapoint is incredible. I have naively assumed we were just packaged up in aggregate and never thought more deeply than that. What are the most valuable data? Pregnant? Wedding? Divorce? Illness? Home purchase?
jdminhbg 11mo ago
> Browsing history? Search history? They want to show you things you have recently watched or looked at when you log in, rather than just random TV shows. > Age? You can give your kids an age-restricted account so what they watch is limited.
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by orwin 11mo ago

raw_anon_1111 11mo ago

So exactly how do you suppose they sync your browsing history and bookmarks between devices if they don’t store the information? And your browsing history is e2e encrypted by keys on your device. Apple doesn’t have access to your browsing history. You can give Apple any age you want to. It’s not like it checks. And I have no idea about the other topics you are going off on and what they have to do with Apple..

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chrz 11mo ago
why would i want to sync everything
- raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
  Why would someone want to sync bookmarks, browsing history etc between their phone, their iPad and their computer? Chrome and Firefox do the same.
  - herewulf 11mo ago
    Firefox only does this if you set it up that way. It's in no way obligatory. That is a far cry from Apple and Google.
    - raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
      And you can disable bookmark syncing for both Google and Safari. But what privacy threat are you trying to avoid by not having your bookmarks and history synced in an E2E manner where Apple can’t see either?
snoman 11mo ago
Are trying to say it’s not possible to write terms that give them the ability to sync your history without also letting them mine and sell all the insights from it?
- raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
  From a technical level, exactly how is Apple mining your browsing history and bookmarks if they are end to end encrypted and they don’t have access to it?

0cf8612b2e1e 11mo ago

I am so curious to learn more about this. Are there any extensive write ups of the mechanics of identification, price points, whatever? Or is it all insider baseball because it is distasteful? Many tens to hundreds of dollars for that single datapoint is incredible. I have naively assumed we were just packaged up in aggregate and never thought more deeply than that. What are the most valuable data? Pregnant? Wedding? Divorce? Illness? Home purchase?

jdminhbg 11mo ago

> Browsing history? Search history? They want to show you things you have recently watched or looked at when you log in, rather than just random TV shows. > Age? You can give your kids an age-restricted account so what they watch is limited.

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