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And predates Fedora by about 6 years.

by macintux 11mo ago

cevn 11mo ago
I was ready to be mad in the comments, now I'm mad but in the other direction.
- stronglikedan 11mo ago
  Don't be mad, they are clearly distinct — one is FEDORA and the other is Fedora!
- ameliaquining 11mo ago
  It seems that in 2003 (when Fedora Linux first launched) this project was pretty obscure and early-stage, so it's hard to blame Red Hat for not having known about it then. This kind of thing just happens sometimes.
  - j45 11mo ago
    Fedora and Red Hat aren't super common or easily accessible anymore either, since they've made their choice as they're entitled to move towards enterprise.
    - samtheDamned 10mo ago
      I feel like fedora is pretty accessible at this point. The main speedbump is enabling non-free repos but if you're helping someone install linux for the first time you just tell them to check that box during setup.
phkahler 11mo ago
Right or wrong, who owns the trademark?
- tsak 11mo ago
  The hat! > The term fedora was in use as early as 1891. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedora#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedora#History)
- fodmap 11mo ago
  Both. '...all parties settled on a co-existence agreement that stated that the Cornell-UVA project could use the name when clearly associated with open source software for digital object repository systems and that Red Hat could use the name when it was clearly associated with open source computer operating systems.' https://fedorarepository.org/about/our-history/ https://fedorarepository.org/about/our-history/
  - notpushkin 11mo ago
    > The transferable agreement stipulated that each project must display the following text on their web site: [...] Looks like Cornell-UVA satisfied this by placing it on their about page. Red Hat on the other hand hid it on a dedicated legalese page nobody will read: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/legal/ https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/legal/ Not a good look IMO.
    - Andrex 11mo ago
      Due to their comparative popularity, it makes complete sense to me. You don't have people in HN comments for a new Fedora release going "Wait is this about the Digital Access Project?" What does "not a good look" even mean in this context? Getting tired of this phrase's overuse tbh. "Think of the optics" fell into disuse and I can't wait for this one to join it.
      - supercheetah 11mo ago
        Red Hat is the bigger party here. Their minimization of this issue seems a little like bullying.
        11mo ago

And predates Fedora by about 6 years.

cevn 11mo ago

I was ready to be mad in the comments, now I'm mad but in the other direction.

stronglikedan 11mo ago
Don't be mad, they are clearly distinct — one is FEDORA and the other is Fedora!
ameliaquining 11mo ago
It seems that in 2003 (when Fedora Linux first launched) this project was pretty obscure and early-stage, so it's hard to blame Red Hat for not having known about it then. This kind of thing just happens sometimes.
- j45 11mo ago
  Fedora and Red Hat aren't super common or easily accessible anymore either, since they've made their choice as they're entitled to move towards enterprise.
  - samtheDamned 10mo ago
    I feel like fedora is pretty accessible at this point. The main speedbump is enabling non-free repos but if you're helping someone install linux for the first time you just tell them to check that box during setup.

phkahler 11mo ago

Right or wrong, who owns the trademark?

tsak 11mo ago
The hat! > The term fedora was in use as early as 1891. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedora#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedora#History)
fodmap 11mo ago
Both. '...all parties settled on a co-existence agreement that stated that the Cornell-UVA project could use the name when clearly associated with open source software for digital object repository systems and that Red Hat could use the name when it was clearly associated with open source computer operating systems.' https://fedorarepository.org/about/our-history/ https://fedorarepository.org/about/our-history/
- notpushkin 11mo ago
  > The transferable agreement stipulated that each project must display the following text on their web site: [...] Looks like Cornell-UVA satisfied this by placing it on their about page. Red Hat on the other hand hid it on a dedicated legalese page nobody will read: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/legal/ https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/legal/ Not a good look IMO.
  - Andrex 11mo ago
    Due to their comparative popularity, it makes complete sense to me. You don't have people in HN comments for a new Fedora release going "Wait is this about the Digital Access Project?" What does "not a good look" even mean in this context? Getting tired of this phrase's overuse tbh. "Think of the optics" fell into disuse and I can't wait for this one to join it.
    - supercheetah 11mo ago
      Red Hat is the bigger party here. Their minimization of this issue seems a little like bullying.
      - 11mo ago